I read that the ITR's chassis is stiffer than a regular integra's. Not just the suspension, and body stiffeners, but supposedly they used thicker material in the rear section of the body...? Can anyone shed some light on this for me? I've been searching but no one has a solid answer so far.

 

This is the first time i hear this.

 

OK noobs, learn

 

wut wut wut!!!! thats blaspheme!!!!

 

o'rly.....But still lags behind the 4dr sedan in terms of strenght

db8>dc2

 

but not in terms of coolness.

 

The sedans are stiffer than a normal DC2, but they are still more of a flexible flyer than the DC2R chassis.

 

Peewee's lol

db8>dc2
db8<dc2R

What the Db8 has is a bit more of a wider stance in the rear than the R and thats about it, oh yea, and two more doors.

 

More junk in the trunk

 

Having owned (and tracked) both a USDM 97 R and a JDM 97 DB8 R. I can def. say that the 4dr does feel more solid and planted than the 2dr's. BUT I enjoyed my 2 dr more interms of driving pleasure... IMO they are so close that is it doesnt matter and it really comes down to personal preference.

I must say tho 97' USDM R > ALL

And to keep this related to OP's question, the 4drs do have a rear performance rod aka "trunk brace bar" it is just located under the rear bumper cover and not visible inside the trunk like the DC2's.

 

I wonder if the JDM DB8R's were reinforced like the DC2R's in those respective areas.

Anyways 4dr<2dr

 

Definitely.

 

Yes they were.

 

Yeah, the DB8R was reinforced as well. However, with the 4-door came a weight penality. This was covered in a Best Motoring vid back in the day and ultimately the 4-door was slower around the track.

However, the USDM DB8 was just a "standard" non-reinforced chassis.

 

Wow thanks! So, to the track guys: does the chassis make that much of a difference, compared to, say, a GSR, or a GSR with stiffener bar?

 

The ITR is superior in every facet to the GSR. Chassis is stiffer, bushings are stiffer, running gear is stronger (brakes, hubs, etc). This doesn't even factor in shocks/springs/swaybars or tranny/motor.

Point is, it's not all about chassis stiffness. There are a lot of factors that make a car "fast" around a track. But the chassis is the backbone of the car, so you might as well start with a good one.

 

Hasport used a 4 door Integra, now stock vs stock yeah it's stiffer, but you can easily change this.

Stiffness means a lot you're suspension compresses and that's really the only thing thats suppose to compress not the frame.

 

Then the engine setup and some other items were banned from HC because it killed everyone else.

 

I own a GSR for couples years and I bought an R last year R. On my GSR i have tried Koni yellow with GC coil over 500/600lbs spring rate, rear R sway bar but I can easily feel that the R is stiffer and more "stable". Kinda hard to explain but you definetly have a better feeling with the R. Especially in the turns.

On the first time on the track with my R, i did some stupid spin out cuz it was really a different driving/car than my GSR.

 

I have a stiffie as well

 

Gil, I saw you went to the Pads game last night. You think they will catch up?

 

if a stiff chassis is what you're after, weld in the roll cage, this by itself will add more rigidity than any other single mod i can think of.

 

A roll cage can add just about 0 reinforcement until the car is rolled.

Rule book rule book.

 

not even remotely true, a cage adds an incredible amount of reinforcement to the chassis. you're basically boxing the entire car together with chromoly tubing

 

I think you mean safety, not reinforcement.