currently running HP+'s, looking to upgrade next year. was going to go with blues, anyone have any info on the dtc60 pads??? lightly moded gsr stock weight here.

 

thats a big jump but id run 60s over blues any day. what tires are you on?

 

i was on the kumo xs, on a 215/45r16 thinking about going to the kumo r compound in a 205/50r15 for next summer. That's at least the plan anyway

 

also i didn't have any problems with the hp+, i'm not the most experienced and i've been working on the set up for about 5 years now. i'm very comfortable with my set up, however i would like to add a cam and everything that goes with that next summer also, so i thought i might benifit with some more stopping power. I'm really trying to keep the car in balance so i'm nervious about changing to much too quick. But i guess after everything i said it will be different enough when all is said and done

 

Im not sure if they make the dtc60 for the 94-01 Integra yet. I picked up some Hawk HT10's for my last track day, and I was also on 215 xs's and the car stopped great.

 

I LOVE the DTC-60s. I use them on my RSXs and S2000. They have a strong initial bite, more than any other pad I have tried, and I prefer this bite to pads that require lots of pedal pressure before they begin to stop hard.

My second favorite pad that I have tried are the carbotech xp-12 or xp-10 pads.

 

They do. I have them on my Civic (GSR brakes at all 4 corners) and they work great with R-comps (I've used them with 225/45/15: NT01s, R888s, R6s and A6s). You have to bee a little more gentle on the pedal when using high performance street rubber though. I used them w/ a set of 205/50/15 XS tires last year for street tire class time attack and thought they were still a decent match.

My experience:
pedal feel / modulation - advantage DTC60
linear friction level - advantage DTC60
resistence to fade from heat - about the same
time from cold to optimum temp - advantage DTC60

 

I think it depends on what you are gonna be doing. I think the biggest factor is that the HP+ is a street/track pad and the Blue/DTC-60 are race pads. I need heat in the 60's before they work to their optimum. In an autocross format I would think this would deter from any advantage.

Agreed. I have switched and will not go back. The 60's are better in almost all aspects than the blues.

 

Man I looked high and low for them when I bought my HT10's, and only found them for the rears and 90-93 Integras and ITR's.

I think the HT10's might be the middle ground between blues and dtc60's or the dtc60's equivalent for certain cars.

Either way I used the HT10's on 215 XS's and they had great initial bite, were easy to modulate, and didnt lock up the tires.

 

I tried it this year in the S2000 with a Brembo GT kit on it and couldn't be happier aswell...A+ pads.

 

hmm.. I love the irony then. I can get the 60's for the front and rear of my car :p

 

Another +1 on the DTC60s.

I ran DTC60s and HT10s on my EG Hatch/GSR swap (engine and brakes) and ran them both with 195 Star Specs. The DTC60s would lock up a little easier than the HT10s. DTCs are definitely more suited towards R comps and the HT-10s more towards street tires. But either seem to work fine. With the extra weight of an Integra GSR that has ABS, I'd just go with the DTC-60s. They even heat up quick, usually during the first application of the brake pedal.

On my 95 M3 however, I drastically overheated some HT-10s, they grooved the hell out of the pads and rotors, and that was on 245 street tires. I only run DTC-60s on that car, they work well with streets and R-comps.

 

best pad i ever had

 

DTC70's for me in front, 60's in rear. Fantastic pads.

 

what's your set up???


I notice alot of people are talking about how quick they come up to temperature. I have notice that with the HP+ that it takes almost a lap to have them get to where i like them. I haven't overheated them. I know it's most likely me not braking hard enough, just cirious as to what others thought

 

How many of you guys with DTC60 pads drive your cars on the street?

If so, how much noise do they produce?

Thanks

 

95% of the cars you hear about here are tracked cars.
Never used the DTC60's, but I have used the blues, and the HT10's I dont notice any noise above the roar of the exhaust.
Next set will be Cobalt XR3's

 

Good point, since it is a "road racing" section...

But, I do plan to drive my '06 Si on the street some and I was wondering what I could expect with these pads...

I'm on the fence man. I've read about pads until my eyes are about to fall out. I want the car to perform well at Road Atlanta but I'm JUST now starting the HPDE... so, would this pad be too aggressive for my first few events? Would installing a less aggressive pad work better for SOME street driving and still work well at the track until I learn how to drive the car much faster?

I have a feeling that at some point the car will be gutted and be a track only car... BUT, it'd still be cool to make the 45 minute interstate drive to Road Atlanta and not trailer the car there...

Any thoughts you guys can provide would be much appreciated.

Thanks!

By the way, I'm running Nitto NeoGen tires...

 

Just starting + street tires + good amount of street driving = go with something more mild.

 

^ thanks for the reply.

Got a suggestion? I'd rather the pads not make much (if any) noise if it's a milder pad...

 

There wont be anything wrong with you changing the pads out for the more aggressive pads when you get to the track.

When you run a more aggressive pad they tend to get more noisy.
So use OEM on the street, switch to the race pads when you track.
More work yes, but you wont kill your rotors as quick, or deal with the noise.
Thanks for reading!
Most newbs dont bother to read and that irritates the **** out of me!

 

i autocrossed my car with dtc60s. not pretty. they don't get up to temp so they ate up the rotor a little. i wouldn't street drive these pads. even to and from the track would be pushing it. if thats what you are looking to do, ht-10s will work for that.

 

If you do decide to run separate pads for the street and the track, and use just one set of rotors, then be aware that some pad compounds might not be compatible - even from the same vendor. There are probably some good combinations for street vs track pads, but would be good to ask on this forum plus the vendor before going to the track. If you do run separate pads for the track, then I suggest changing over to them a few days before the track event, so you can rebed them in, and deal with any issues that might crop up. Track days can sometimes get hectic, so I like the idea of getting as much done as possible before going to the track. - Jim

- Jim

 

Thank you all for your input.

I do like the idea of having 2 sets of pads. I'll give Hawk a call to ask about the compatibility of having 1 rotor.

I also like the idea of swapping the pads a few days before the track event.

Thanks again. I'm just hear to read and learn!

 

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