+25 Dangerous?
I ordered a set of buddy club p1 racing sf wheels nearly 3 months ago and still hadn't received them. After talking to the place I ordered from once a week for the entire 3 months and getting a different story I canceled my order. Now I have a brand new set of 16 inch tires waiting on wheels. Planning on ordering tomorrow, but had an offset question. Most of the wheels for my 1996 honda accord lx (4x114.3) are in the 40-42mm offset range, occasionally 45mm. I found some Konig Countersteer r with a +25mm offset. I was wondering if these would stick out with 205/55-16's? Also their hub bore is 83.2 mm and my stock bore is 64.1 Will this cause any issues as well? I'm just tired of all the bullshit and want to get these tires on some wheels and on my car. I'd really appreciate any advice. Also, I was considering Rota Grids or the Konig Countersteer r. Anyone have any advice/opinions on this decision.
I can't comment on offset. You should go measure your outer clearance to verify if they'll fit. Easy enough to do if you know your current offset and width.
As far as center bore, you just need to make certain that the wheel center bore is the same size or larger than the stock bore. You could use wheel centering rings to fill in the clearance gap, but I've never had issue running without them.
As far as center bore, you just need to make certain that the wheel center bore is the same size or larger than the stock bore. You could use wheel centering rings to fill in the clearance gap, but I've never had issue running without them.
i need more info to give advice on this...are you lowered(if so, how much), what is the width on these wheels, around what are your camber specs, do you plan on stretching tires
from the info you have given...the magic tire size for 5th gens and 16 inch wheels is 205/50/16...you can only pull 16's off if you are slammed and i mean slammed (i personally tried to pull them off with almost a 2.5 inch drop and still couldn't pull them off)
after getting rid of the 16's i am now on 17's with a 8.5 width and a 20 offset and have no problem any where except i get a slight rub when i go down very steep driveways but i have virgin fenders so its expected...there tons of people that have even more extreme specs then me, but its all about how far you willing to go with this
from the info you have given...the magic tire size for 5th gens and 16 inch wheels is 205/50/16...you can only pull 16's off if you are slammed and i mean slammed (i personally tried to pull them off with almost a 2.5 inch drop and still couldn't pull them off)
after getting rid of the 16's i am now on 17's with a 8.5 width and a 20 offset and have no problem any where except i get a slight rub when i go down very steep driveways but i have virgin fenders so its expected...there tons of people that have even more extreme specs then me, but its all about how far you willing to go with this
My car is lowered ~2.5 inches. Never measured, but the shocks and struts I installed were supposed to lower it 2.5 inches. When I bought the car it already had 15" motegi's and I believe 195/60-15's. This looked good with roughly a couple inch gap between the tires and fender. I do not know my exact camber specs. Last time I had an alignment was last year. I planned on having a local shop do a kit if the have to. My concern was the offset. Despite what I read, I still sometimes find it difficult to tell. I want to avoid rolling my fenders mainly because I am inexperienced in that department.
I do not plan on stretching the tires. The wheel width is 7 inches. I was going to go with 17's after all of this happened, but my parents bought me the tires and I really need to use those first. Thats why I'm going with fairly cheap wheels. I will upgrade later. Thanks for the advice and thats a sexy civic.
I do not plan on stretching the tires. The wheel width is 7 inches. I was going to go with 17's after all of this happened, but my parents bought me the tires and I really need to use those first. Thats why I'm going with fairly cheap wheels. I will upgrade later. Thanks for the advice and thats a sexy civic.
i dont see why it shouldnt work then (but you may have slight rubbin like i do)...i would recommend just selling those tires and just getting some nice rims to beginning with...if you want some real advice from real wheel gurus hit up hondasociety...trust we have most of the cleanest accords on that site
Plus, where I live I can't run around with a slammed car anyways or I'll bottom out all the time. I appreciate your advice. Just curious if the 16x7 +25 with 205's would stick out very far or rub. What I can gather the answer is if they do it will only be a little bit. Does anyone have any advice or personal experience on weather to go with the rota grids over the konig countersteer r?
First of all, EITHER tire size may work, and it depends on the engine and version of the Accord. The 1996 Accord LX with the V6 motor came from the factory with 195/65-15 tires, and the best match in terms of outer diameter is 205/55-16. It's almost exactly the same outer diameter (off by 0.4 percent) whereas the 205/50-16 is much too small (by 3.6 percent, which is a lot). If this 1996 Accord LX has the 4-cylinder engine, though, you can use either size; the factory size is 185/65-15, the 205/55-16 is 1.7 percent larger and the 205/50-16 is 1.6 percent smaller, so it's really a toss-up. If you need the extra ride height for purposes of road clearance, though, go with the 205/55-16.
The bigger problem is the oversized center bore. Many people have problems with vibrations when using a larger center bore than the hub, although others are lucky and don't run into such problems. You can get hub-centering rings that usually eliminate such problems, but it's really trying to correct one problem by adding another possible cause of problems. You'd be better off getting wheels whose center bore matches the hub on your car.
The bigger problem is the oversized center bore. Many people have problems with vibrations when using a larger center bore than the hub, although others are lucky and don't run into such problems. You can get hub-centering rings that usually eliminate such problems, but it's really trying to correct one problem by adding another possible cause of problems. You'd be better off getting wheels whose center bore matches the hub on your car.
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