By cheap, I mean without any super pricey mount/adapter/conversion kits. The reason behind this is that I'm looking for a bang-for-the-buck swap to upgrade my $500 (price limit) crapcan racer that I am racing in a well known national crapcan race series. And Accord swaps are super cheap, and super plentiful.

I have the ability to weld and fabricate... and I'm good at junkyard scrounging But there's no way I'd pass tech with any bling aftermarket parts visible.

I'd like to take a full accord swap and put it in our 90 Civic 4-door. I'm hoping to not have to purchase an expensive HASport mount kit, F2D transmission adapter, or hydro conversion kit. Can I use stock hydro parts from a newer civic? How far off are the engine mounts going to be?

Any insight on this is helpful. If its just going to be too hard, I'll stick with cheap D series engines.

Thanks!

 

F22 Swaps are cheap enough to be done.

--You're going to have to go for aftermarket mounts, they can be obtained cheaply.
---F to D or F to B is preference, not mandatory.
--If you're set up was cable iniitially and you're installing a hydro tranny, you will need a conversion kit for it to go down, be prepared to have to run lines, install cylinders, ect. It is my understanding that going with the older set up (Shifter Cables) will be best.

AN entire f22 Sohc Vtec swap can be obtained for $350-400 bucks with decent milage on it and that's with the tranny. Mounts can be obtained for anywhere inbetween $250 (used) to 375 bucks (Closer to new or new). It's good that you're welding/fab capable because you may need to relocate a mount, or modify a mount still even after purchase. It's a somewhat straight forward drop...however i'm hating to say that you'll only get performance that would be marginally better then say...an LS motor depending on which year F22 you get.

 

yeah... like i said, those bling aftermarket parts are expensive and will not allow me to pass tech. So no go. I realize its easy if you just drop down money on pre-fabricated kits.

 

F22 swaps are cheap as hell dude


Buy the mounts to swap, buy a b18 LS ecu to run it half *** until you convert to OBD1 and run teh proper F22 fuel/ignition map

 

ugh, you guys totally didn't read my post. Due to budget restrictions of the racing I do, i can't just buy a multi-hundred dollar kit. I can build stuff, adapt stuff, etc. I more want to know how feasible that is.

 

mounts are easy

axles are easy, inner joints and sshafts of a 91-93 accord, and outer civic joints for the hubs.

motor and tranny are cheap as fawk, sub $200 from the right person


Do a OBD1 wiring conversion along with using a full obd1 engine harness


Overall you can spend less then $600 and have more power, similar gasmileage, and with the low compression of the F22, have a great base for turbocharging

 

what do you mean by 'mounts are easy' - could i fabricate my own?

Are you saying I need to take apart a set of Axles and swap joints?

 

on the cheap, yes

or you can buy H swap axles

 

take the money for the swap and build the motor you already have, as in switch to mpfi and get a vtec head. youll have about the same hp output and stay reliable and simple to keep going.

 

how about the hydro swap? Can I take an OEM pedal assembly from an EG or something?

 

F22>d15/d16 in terms of reliability

D=easiest to go with though!!

 

yes you can make it work. Sh!ft has done it, the pics are crappy but his build thread has a diy on it

 

I already did MPFI, OBD1 and mini-me. Wasn't that impressed. I think the bigger displacement motor has more potential, and more torque.

 

I didn't see it there... what page is it on?

 

nevermind, found it in a separate thread. Doesnt look too bad...

 

To get cheap mounts that do not set off the judges or fellow competitor's alarms, maybe buy the expensive mounts and copy them. Fabricate with tube steel, angle iron and use rubber bushings, then sell off or return the expensive swap mounts.

 

anything is possible!

 

not anything is possible (or realistic) in a tight budget.

 

without the adapter plate and running a h-series tranny should be cheap since the price for a f22 is cheap hell i got one for free. for mounts i recommend explicit speed there cheap and well built. if you stay with a h-series tranny then it will be less hassle like notching the frame rails or making mounts to accept a b or d tranny. other than that you looking at some money since i hear bisi's version of the f2d or f2b mounts which supposedly avoids notching the frame rails is sorta pricey but worth it if you start getting more funds later on down the road.