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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 05:36 PM
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Was just looking at Hondata's site and they have a new unit out to replace the 2/3/4b ECU's. Looks to be cheaper and just as nice. And you can choose exactly what you want. http://www.hondata.com/s200.html
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 06:14 PM
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 06:37 PM
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So how many of you are gonna try to figure out what the 'numeric key' is to get datalogging and boost? lol
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 11:57 AM
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Nice try. The unlock key is a 20 digit number, so at the maximum rate of input it will take on average 1,585,489,599,188 years to guess the unlock code. This is about the lifetime of the universe so you'd better get started soon. However, an excessive number of incorrect codes will stop the interface box from accepting any more codes, so you'll only be able to guess about 0.0000041% of the available codes.
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 12:02 PM
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OKay so if there not crackable.....what about copying someone else's code....

I.E. 2 Hondata users pitch in to buy the upgrade code together?

1 code 2 ECU's?


[Modified by Spade, 1:03 PM 9/18/2002]
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 12:04 PM
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if it is a twenty digit number, there can only be 100,000,000,000,000,000,000 possible answers if the possible entries are 0-9 and there are no other variables to take under account, ex being, not using 0 as the first digit, etc.

So, what's the code?
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 12:51 PM
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FREE UPGRADE SWEET!!!

Man I'm gonna start updating some stuff to get that babt running like a monster...Naw just kidding. I would like to change a few things around like the shift light and be able to do my own diagnostic work.
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 01:31 PM
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That is awesome! I guess that will be next on my list.
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 02:19 PM
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Nice idea. I had wondered how you guys were going to counteract the random attempts to circumvent the access codes. However, there is still potentially a problem with >1 person using the same access code "subscription". Hopefully people will be honest and trustworthy and not take advantage of this amazing product (or maybe Doug built in the 'this ECU will self destruct in 5 seconds'.....or how about it initiates ANTI-VTEC!! ).

Props to Doug et al at Hondata. Now I just have to upgrade again

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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 02:57 PM
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Nice try. The unlock key is a 20 digit number, so at the maximum rate of input it will take on average 1,585,489,599,188 years to guess the unlock code. This is about the lifetime of the universe so you'd better get started soon. However, an excessive number of incorrect codes will stop the interface box from accepting any more codes, so you'll only be able to guess about 0.0000041% of the available codes.
what are you going to do from people giving other people the access code to enable boost/datalogging? Or is the "access key" some sort of mathematic algorithm which has to do with say the serial number so each access code is different?

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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 05:57 PM
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We'd look fairly silly if the same code worked on two different units. Seriously, we came up with the idea of the unlock code because I thought it would be an easier and more reliable way for the owner to upgrade. Plus the dealer can datalog from any unit to make installation and tuning easier.
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 06:05 PM
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We'd look fairly silly if the same code worked on two different units. Seriously, we came up with the idea of the unlock code because I thought it would be an easier and more reliable way for the owner to upgrade. Plus the dealer can datalog from any unit to make installation and tuning easier.
Well i figured that i just wanted to make sure. Sounds cool

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Old Sep 19, 2002 | 04:43 PM
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Would i have to get my car re-tuned if i upgraded?
OR
would the tune currently on my ECU work with the NEW box?
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Old Sep 19, 2002 | 11:15 PM
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Is it even worth to upgrade from a 4b to a s200? Will i gain more whp and tq numbers from this?
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Old Sep 19, 2002 | 11:18 PM
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Was just looking at Hondata's site and they have a new unit out to replace the 2/3/4b ECU's. Looks to be cheaper and just as nice. And you can choose exactly what you want. http://www.hondata.com/s200.html
yea there was a post in forced induction that laid everyting out
the hondata people are on HT.

and your in tucson and associoated with collevtive huh?
b20vtec blue civic Si on black steelies?
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 12:06 AM
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Yes I'm associated with Collective, Scott (2point6) built my motor. I do not have the B20Vtec, that is my friend Danny. My Si was black, now its CW with black wheels. Its the only CW civic in Tucson. Here is a pic of it



[Modified by AzSi22, 2:06 AM 9/20/2002]


[Modified by AzSi22, 2:07 AM 9/20/2002]
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 12:11 AM
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Default Re: New Hondata Version s200 (AzSi22)

Yes I'm associated with Collective, Scott (2point6) built my motor. I do not have the B20Vtec, that is my friend Danny. My Si was black, now its CW with black wheels. Its the only CW civic in Tucson. Here is a pic of it



[Modified by AzSi22, 2:06 AM 9/20/2002]


[Modified by AzSi22, 2:07 AM 9/20/2002]
ahh yes ive seen it. i was just taking a stab in the dark at who you were. its a clean car, good work. whats under the hood? if scott built it im sure its not slow hehe.
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 06:00 AM
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Any good news on the p13 ecu's. That is the only thing that is really stopping me from getting a hondata. Its hard finding a p72 for a good price..
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 06:06 AM
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Hondata has a serious design flaw, my interface cable from ecu to hondata crapped out. The wiring is so fragile, ground has broken off on its own and the power has to be wiggled to make it work. My box is bolted down and the wire does not tug at all, the harness simpliy broke off on its own. It really sux when your driving on the highway and you get that sudden power cut and the box starts blinking. I had to pull over many times to wiggle the wire back to working order.
Hondata has been great with helping me out thus far but my new wire was ordered over a week ago and i still haven't recieved a replacement.
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 08:06 AM
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B18C1 block w/ B16A head, 11.1:1 CR, GSR cams, TB, IM, etc.
I ran a 13.7@99.7 in Firebird earlier this year when it was cold still.
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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 09:14 AM
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I've been running my Hondata box for 2 years with no reliability problems with the wires or any other component. Good product IMO! Glad to see they've found a way to make the product easily upgradeable and cheaper to start with. Nice work Hondata!
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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 06:21 AM
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dangit! I feel a tad bit cheated since I recently bought my 2b
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 01:46 PM
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even if you could get the "key" it would be pointless because you wouldn't have all those wonderful basemaps that the new s200 system comes with
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 01:59 PM
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Can you use the Hondata system with a D16Y7?
The app guide on the hondata site didnt list that I could.
Could I swap in a different ECU to use the hondata?
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 03:12 PM
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what ecu are you running with that engine? i have a d16y7/8 with a p28 ecu, running a s200 boost system. that works for me
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