i bought a 88 civic ef hatch but its a dx with 4 speeds etc. im interested to have a usdm k20 engine installed, but the price is 8,500.00 . i know its a huge nbr. what ya think ? too much ? average price ? or is it a common price ? thats included everything, all the necessary etc.

 

definitely a waste of money when there are many other cheaper options available...!!!
http://ef-honda.com/ben/EFswapguide.php

 

yep ^ hell i've seen k-swapped civics ready to go for that much or less

 

Man that swap guide is old, before they had K-swaps. I read an article about a K from an Accord which makes it a lot cheaper, check it out here.
http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/t...wap/index.html

 

8,500 is ridiculous, for that money you could put together a far faster car then what a K20 would yield for less then half the money. If you have a budget that big and you want to make power, go forced induction + Small displacement B-Series (LS,GSR,B16..), torque a factor? Across the spending margin a reliable H-Series swap could be put together for far less money and headache and produce astonishing numbers.

Speaking from experience, doing most of the work myself, and tactically acquiring parts and spending, I put together a 600hp+ H-Series swap that has been running reliably for about 2 years now for less then 4 grand and most of that was spent on tuning.


I hate K's..I hate how they have such a fanbase when their superiority over the other motors as far as potential -vs- costs has yet to be proven.

 

so you would rather put a wagyu (kobe) steak into a flap meat car...i would rather spend on the flap meat and have some porterhouse steak as a two entree combo...!!!

 

ef chassis go B.

 

i have no idea wtf you just said there ^

although i did invision something not all that pretty when you said flap meat..



lol

 

$8500 k-swap motor
$2.99lb flap meat (ranchera)
$5.99lb porterhouse steaks

it was a comparison to asian flavas complaint as where i can buy hundereds of pounds of meat along with a nice b-series motor and that pic you posted is brisket not flap meat

 

brisket aye? i figured it was just roast beef.. hell i dunno lol

 

 

I'm mad that you actually have this information readily on hand....lmao...

 

mmmm. that makes me want some frickin.. cow! i can't even decide what part, just gimme somethin smothered and covered

 

extrablackrex we all have this information readily available...it's called the internet...ever heard of it

 

This post has taken a very disturbing and strange turn....

 

x2 lulz

 

just slap a b series in there w/ a turbo kit and a tune.

you will be more than happy

 

For 8,500 bux you should be looking at a completed already swapped and clean car. My CRX is as clean as they come with AC and a B18CR swap and I would be lucky to get 5K for it.

 

If you come across any K-Engine more than $3000 for the complete changeover, tell them to **** OFF.

If they are offering all the work done for $8500? (Including frame restoration, etc.?) I'd say it's worth it. Stock, you'll still spank an B-series and even most of the modded B's out there.

 

I would get a B18c and then bide my time waiting for the right parts. you could build a K-killer for 8.5 gs.

 

Wagyu is a breed, so it also has flap steak also, proly not much different from one from another breed. I'll put my $1.98/lb brisket up against a porterhouse anytime. BBQ is another of my hobbies.

 

^ *drool*

i could definitely go for some smashtacular bbq right about meow

 

omg lol how does an ef thread get to the point of discussing meats lmao...

 

8500? CRAZY money right there!



But this: DROOOOOOOOOOOOOOL...

 

Don't agree with that. K's advertise 200 at the crank about 160 torque at the crank, that's roughly 160-170@ the wheel and roughly 140-150 torque at the wheel.

Moderately Modified - LS/Vtec set up (LS Bottom end/B16 Head), par say, stock bottom end, and severe head work with a tune, i/h/e could match the performance of a K series.

Moderately Modified - b20/Vtec Set up (b20 bottom end/B16 head), head work, bottom end work, could match the performance of a K-Series motor.

And just because it's my favorite..

A Lightly Modded H-Series Motor - Can match or exceed the performance of a K Series depending on the H-motor type.

ALL do this at less then half the cost of building.

K-Series is a fad, it has yet to prove to have the bang for buck factor of a B-Series motor, or the b-series work horse status. I mean honestly? If he has 8 grand to spend? Why not just go J and smack em all in the mouth. I just started a J-Swap, i'm $2500 in and it's almost installed and running and i'm garunteed to make more then 250 on horses and at the very least 230 on torque, and this is out of a J32 Type S swap..


K = Fad. Not a cost effective way to build up a car. This is soley my opinion though.