So, right now I've got H&R springs on KYB agx struts. The ride is awesome. I'm thinking I want to get a full coilover setup but don't want to lose the comfortable ride. I was thinking Tein Flex since they're designed with the street driver in mind but still can perform well if they were used on track. But, I really have no idea so I'm looking for some opinions. Thanks for any help.

 

Those statements do not go in the same sentence together. If you want to go to full coilover system then you will have to sacrifice some comfort. You will find the more you mod towards performance the more comfort goes.

My best advice is to get a Ground Control kit on whatever preferred shock you want to use. Probably closest you will get to what you want.

 

Check out AMR. Kind of in the same price range as the Flex's. I have owned both and can't complain for either. I just liked the fact that the AMR's are built to my spec and lifetime warranty.

 

i have to disagree. Yes, while cheaper variety coilovers you purchase does sacrifice ride comfort for "performance" there are plenty of quality aftermarket coilovers that ride really well and perform better than stock because the springs and shocks are built around each other. I ride on a set of Zeals and you have to try it to believe how comfortable it is and how well it performs in all conditions. Of course, if you go for a more "track" setup you will sacrifice ride quality.

 

koni+GC are GREAT!!!!!

 

are you guys not reading his post? he said FULLCOILOVER system. Not sleeves

 

whats the difference again? some of the "full" coils are nothing more than a sleeve tacked to a shock.

comfort generally = a progressive spring. i have no idea if you have came across any that use them but it's one way you can literally have two different spring rates on the same shock

 

come on... how are they nothing more than sleeves tacked onto a shock?
with sleeves, you can pretty much interchange them with any shocks fit for the car even oem. Which in turn would alter ride quality, performance.... With full coilovers you have springs which were developed along with the shocks with proper valving, rebound/comp adjustment, independent ride height adjustability etc. albeit if dumping your car and riding on bumpstops is your thing, go for it

 

WTF is a "full coilover"?

Stock, the car had coilovers, which means nothing more than a coil spring over a shock.

An adjustable spring perch is just that, and it won't matter if the threads are cut into the shock body or are on a sleeve placed over the body.

And now back to your regularly scheduled "thinking something is better just because some random company says so"...

 

Thanks for the opinions guys.. I realize that by going with any set of coilovers that I will loose some ride quality but gain performance. I'm just hoping to find a set that will least change the comfort of the ride.

I understand that the term "full coilover" can be a bit skewed. I'm basically talking a setup that is all coming from the same manufacturer. IE the Tein Flex setup.

 

^wow serious?
ok then.. i guess my car is technically a truck because i can TRUCK around lumber and cement bags in the trunk

 

I am quite familiar with ZEAL as I have had them on almost "performance" car I have owned not to much I have done testing numerous times for ZEAL as well. ZEAL does make a great coilover that is quite smooth and comfortable but "comfortable" to most people is OEM style smoothness and comfort which no matter how expensive a coilover is it will not ride like OEM. I am gathering my statement I made earlier on experience, most people that come to me and use the word comfort I would setup with strut and spring combo of some sort.

 

Tein Flex is a good "comfort"/sporty coilover system...a little over priced IMO just cause I think you are mostly paying for a name but still a good coilover with good customer service with repair available state side which is a great thing.

 

Although I do agree that a shock/spring combo can be a good setup, it's hard to give you credibility when you suggest "ground control" as a good setup over a quality coilover set. And say what you may, the zeals i have feel JUST as comfortable, if not more, and I call bs when you say you have done testing "numerous" times for ZEAL because of your statement.

 

I make suggestions to people based on their needs and what they plan to do with their car, for this person seems that I think GC setup would be best. A high end full coilover IS going to be far superior IMO to a GC for track conditions, you are right (I never really stated otherwise) but most people think they own a race car when they pretty much just DD it so things like GC setups work so well for most. This guy does not need a ZEAL, Ohlins, JRZ, AST or any high end brand like that.

Haha I have been in the game long enough to know there is no point in trying to make you believe me plus I do not care if you do not. I just wish Dominic and Kent were still at ENDLESS/ZEAL USA they were great.

Out of curiosity what ZEAL coilovers do you have? On what car? Custom spring rates or the ones provided? Do you have the older ZEAL's that came with Swift springs or ZEAL's own "X-Coil"?

 

I agree arguing won't get us anywhere.. it's just that i've experienced gc's before on my friends dc and they were one of the worst springs i have felt (surprised because they were springs from eibach correct?)
Anywho, I have the function xs which come with the x-coils.. i was thinking of upgrading to swift coilover springs but i love the street feel on the xs so much, that i opted on keeping them. They are for my S.

 

Well I can definietly respect you for your first statement because most people on the "interweb" (LOL) do not seem to get that. Hmmm that's interesting but yeah they aren't for everyone. You are correct, GC springs are just Eibach springs.

Nice, yes when the newer version of the XS first came out with the new coatings and the "X-Coil" spring I had a set on my MY02 WRX and loved them! Swift makes a great spring, the best in the industry IMO but no need, IMO once again, to change out from the X-Coil unless you are wanting to change spring rates in which case might as well go with Swift. Just be careful chaning spring rates, small changes are ok but any decent amount of change and you will have to spend good amount of $$$ to get them revalved.

Nice chatting with you. Nice to know not everyone on forums are idiots and a-holes that only want to state their "God like" opinion LOL.

 

yeah, thing i hate about hondatech is that all these people think they are like 20 year experienced ASE-certified technicians just because they did a few oil changes.. all they seem to do is irresponsibly regurgitate false information based on what they saw or read over the web and on this site..and it's getting worse every day. kinda sad

 

nice chat gentlemen.

 

I take it we haven't tried to get information off of VWvortex?

All car based web forums are like that, with the sole exceptions potentially being the forums dedicated to a specific form of racing, where instead they argue over rule specifics that would leave most people wondering "Really? A 14 page thread over wiper washer reservoirs?"...

 

winnar! LMAO

 

Wow.. thanks for being a little creepy and going into my previous post. Wonderful...
Apparently you don't know how to READ.. if you actually read what i posted (which is a surprise because it was just two posts before), i wrote "irresponsibly regurgitate false information based on what they saw or read". Because you don't know how to properly extract information.. what "REGURGITATE FALSE INFORMATION" means is that i would use false info from the web to give people advice.. which i didn't. Thank you creep.
But you are correct.. there is no need to further argue about something so simple.

 

Seems I'm not the one who needs to learn how to read.

I was agreeing with you concerning the "regurgitate false information". If you've ever been on the vortex, that is all that exists there.

Which is why it was followed up with "the exception" in the next sentence. Racing forums don't spread false information (they're usually very good for getting correct technical answers), they make a huge deal out of seemingly ridiculous rules.

Talk about getting all bend out of shape over nothing. Someone agrees with you, and you tell them to learn to read?

I'm drunk. What's your excuse for such pathetic reading comprehension skills?