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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 02:44 PM
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Can someone who has done the AV6/wagon caliper swap on a 4G or 5G Accord, tell me what caliper bracket they used? Was it the 25T or 23T bracket? Every pair of calipers I can get from Autozone only has the 23T bracket. Which doesn't make sense since the rotor is 25mm thick (minimum thickness of 23mm).

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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 02:56 PM
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I have no idea.

Feel free to come buy and check it out though.

Send me an email and I'll give you address.
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 02:57 PM
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or let me know where it says, or how I can find out. and I'll check it.
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 03:42 PM
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Greensleeper, where are you in Milwaukee? We can meet up somewhere.

For now though - I forgot that when the bracket is on the car, the "23T" or "25T" is stamped on to the edge of the bracket that is facing the inside (i.e. facing the CV joint) so you wouldn't be able to see it. I thought maybe someone would have taken note before they put it on the car.

The 23T bracket seems to be working OK so far but the minimal clearance is making me nervous. I went to Autozone and they ordered another pair for me just to see if the same brackets would come with it - and they were the same. Right now I have to live with it shimmed out with washers. The guy at Autozone said that they would take the calipers back though so I am looking for another pair hopefully with the right brackets - I just don't want to pay more.
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 04:40 PM
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I'd be interested in seeing this shim idea you are using. I don't understand the problem though - haven't really thought about it.

This weekend is my last in WI so we should catch up sometime soon.
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 05:18 PM
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I put some pictures up, look at them and you will probably see what I mean by "minimal clearance."

http://home.earthlink.net/~sw22/accord/

Email me, sw22@earthlink.net and we can get together.
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 06:30 PM
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you should be using the 25T bracket i think... have u tried junkyards yet?


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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 07:27 PM
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you should be using the 25T bracket i think... have u tried junkyards yet?


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Yup, I am on the lookout for that 25T bracket.. does it exist? Thats why I wanted to see what everyone else was using. I would imagine there has to be a 25T.

I don't understand how I ended up with a 23T bracket. This must be the bracket for the regular 4 cylinder coupe/sedan Accords with stock Nissin calipers (mine had Akebono calipers.) Funny thing is, my Akebono caliper brackets (designed for the thinner rotors) actually have a bigger cutout for the rotor. Go figure.

None of the junkyards around here have anything good. I am gonna keep driving with the bracket I have now for a while. It seems to be holding up.

I tried putting the PF pads back on tonight - added the shims that came with it, and they are great!! I also adjusted the brake pedal per the factory manual and I now have a nice high pedal, just like I wanted. I see braided lines in my future, but this will keep me content for now.
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 08:08 PM
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how does it feel compared to the stock 4cyl caliper??
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 08:25 PM
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I see now what you mean by minimal clearance. I'll look at it tomorrow morning.

I'm on the North side right by Good Hope and 107th.
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 08:33 PM
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amazing but its mostly the fatter rotors, more aggresive pads, and SS lines.

though the larger caliper helps
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 08:46 PM
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where did u get your calipers? junk yard or autoparts store? im thinking about getting rebuilt NSX calipers... but now im afraid i might not get the right bracket.
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 08:48 PM
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where did u get your calipers? junk yard or autoparts store? im thinking about getting rebuilt NSX calipers... but now im afraid i might not get the right bracket.
NSX calipers just aren't worth it. You can find Legend calipers much cheaper, and they work more effectively.
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 08:53 PM
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I can get NSX calipers the same price as the legend ones. and the NSX ones are a little lighter even though the legend ones have a bigger second piston..
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 09:05 PM
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where did u get your calipers? junk yard or autoparts store? im thinking about getting rebuilt NSX calipers... but now im afraid i might not get the right bracket.
olsten's auto salvage. 80 bucks shipped for both. straight off the car.
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 08:44 AM
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I think the reason why you got the 23T bracket with the caliper is because ITR's also use the same caliper and I'm pretty sure that ITR's use a 23mm rotor. So my guess is you got a caliper from a ITR.
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 08:50 AM
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Mine don't look that tight.

My parts came off a 92 wagon.
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 02:19 PM
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how does it feel compared to the stock 4cyl caliper??
It's hard to say. It is definitely a lot grabbier than before but you can't really tell because you are comparing new rotors and pads vs. old glazed over rotors and old pads. Not sure how much of the difference is actually attributable to the bigger piston, pad and rotor surface area.

Either way though, for roughly $80 more than it would have cost me to do just a stock replacement (new rotors and pads), I'm not complaning! My old rotors were warped - so I was in the market for new rotors anyway, and I would have bought new pads for the new rotors. Basically the only thing that cost me "more" for the upgrade was the calipers.
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 02:20 PM
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where did u get your calipers? junk yard or autoparts store? im thinking about getting rebuilt NSX calipers... but now im afraid i might not get the right bracket.
I got my calipers from Autozone, $85 for the pair. Just wish they had the 25T bracket - although I am getting by just fine right now.

I was looking at getting the Legend or NSX calipers as well but just could not find decent calipers for a decent price in my area.
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 02:22 PM
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I think the reason why you got the 23T bracket with the caliper is because ITR's also use the same caliper and I'm pretty sure that ITR's use a 23mm rotor. So my guess is you got a caliper from a ITR.
You could be right. For a while I couldn't figure out what car used this caliper that would have a thin rotor.. I've looked at 2 pairs from Autozone and they both had 23T brackets. I almost want to ask them to order a third to check, but I doubt it.

I'm looking for the phone # of the remanufacturer (Morse) to see if they might be able to help me out. Probably not though, but it's worth a shot.
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 02:23 PM
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maybe you should try getting them from a different autoparts store..
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 02:25 PM
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maybe you should try getting them from a different autoparts store..
The other main auto parts store here in town, Advance Auto Parts, wants $150 A PIECE for a loaded front caliper. That is $300 total. Isn't that ridiculous?

I should just order up a pair from Olsten's. But then again the ones I have are doing just fine. Hmmn. Maybe these will work out OK after all.
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 02:29 PM
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Yeah probably salvage yards are your only choice then..
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 02:30 PM
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You said the legend calipers that they ordered were only single piston? Maybe take a look at the brackets on those.
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 02:33 PM
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You said the legend calipers that they ordered were only single piston? Maybe take a look at the brackets on those.
If I remember right they were 28T. Not sure if that would work.
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