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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 01:01 PM
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Default JUN3 Killers - HondaSaver US4 CAM Dyno Shoot Out

Here are the dyno results for the HondaSaver US4 Cams vs. JUN3.

For those who are not familiar with HondaSaver this is not a fluke or joke.

For those who are customers and friends this represents a new era in commercially available performance.

Wecome to the Jungle!



The Red Line is the HondaSaver US4 CAM.

Here is the actual picture of the intake cam before I sent it out the Singapore for testing.




[Modified by Rocket, 8:24 AM 9/19/2002]


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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 01:03 PM
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The lines on the top are from my cams.

There are no numbers as the racer how owns this engine does not want his competitor to know how much power he is making.
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 01:38 PM
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i dont see a dyno sheet?
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 01:42 PM
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you need look at the url again, we cant see the results
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 01:57 PM
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Is this better.

Man, yahoo photos can be a pain.
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 02:06 PM
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Any details on the setup??
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 02:48 PM
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B20 bottom End
B16 Head with mild clean-up in the ports
Jun Valvetrain
Toda Pistons


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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 03:12 PM
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were both of setups tuned.. and how well?
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 03:25 PM
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Yes both set-ups were tuned by the same tuner. The JUN3 set-up was fully turned to the max for a while. The tune on my cams was done yesterday.


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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 05:41 PM
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Hey Rocket,

Whats the current cost? Do you recommend any valvetrain over another? Keep me updated on those!

-Nick-
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 05:53 PM
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do these eat rocker arms like our lovely Toda B's do?
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 06:27 PM
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where was this dyno'd at?
i dont see any numbers. any hp/tq numbers off hand?


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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 09:20 PM
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where was this dyno'd at?
i dont see any numbers. any hp/tq numbers off hand?


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Dynoed in Singapore. The numbers are not posted because the owner of the car does want his competitor to know his dyno numbers.
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 09:21 PM
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Hey Rocket,

Whats the current cost? Do you recommend any valvetrain over another? Keep me updated on those!

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I have valve springs that work nicely with the cams. I recommend stock retainers.
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 09:22 PM
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do these eat rocker arms like our lovely Toda B's do?
Rocker arm compatability is not an issue.
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 11:45 PM
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where was this dyno'd at?
i dont see any numbers. any hp/tq numbers off hand?


[Modified by JaeOne3345, 3:32 AM 9/18/2002]

Dynoed in Singapore. The numbers are not posted because the owner of the car does want his competitor to know his dyno numbers.
Can you at least tell how much of a gain over the JUN ones?
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 11:49 PM
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Can you at least tell how much of a gain over the JUN ones?
5hp more peak torque.
5ft-lbs more peak torque.

What you can't see on the charts is the improved throttle response and insane VTEC scream.
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 12:04 AM
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why does it end at 8200??
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 12:12 AM
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As you can see from the torque curve that torque is falling. My tuner friend saw no need to spin the motor further just for rpm sake.

I think he needs a better header. If you look at the torque it's tilted down on towards the higher rpm which suggest he needs shoter runners in either the intake or exhaust side or both.


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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 01:09 AM
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how much are these going to run?
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 04:56 AM
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very interesting Rocket
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 06:06 AM
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The numbers are not posted because the owner of the car does want his competitor to know his dyno numbers.
Rocket, instead of 'absolute' numbers, could you tell us what the scale is on the horizontal lines on the graph ? Are the main lines going across the graph 25 hp apart ?
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 10:53 AM
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There's more power to be made with this engine. It runs a CTR cast exhuast manifold if you can believe that!
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 11:13 AM
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how much are these going to run?
Same Q....
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 11:23 AM
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HS Cams is $700 on chilled cast cores.
HS Springs with cam purchase is $125
HS Springs without cam purchase is $175


You must use at least JUN, TODA, Web, IB, or HondaSaver springs. No cams will be sold without acknowledgement that proper springs must be installed with the cams.
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