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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 01:31 PM
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Default JDM Front...t-bar or whole rad support, what's stronger?

Yes, I've searched. I read through a million jdm front threads but none of them really talked extensively on this topic.

We know there are 2 ways to do the radiator support for a conversion. You can drill the spot welds and do the entire support and reweld the whole thing to the car frame, or you can opt to just do the "t-bar" and keep the lower factory welds.

I'm very aware many of you are against cutting a perfectly good itr up for the sake of a conversion, but let's try to keep that aside for now.

Which method will retain the most structural rigidity? Cutting the t-bar off from the bottom of the radiator support essentially cutting the radiator support in half, and rewelding just the top piece, or keeping the radiator support as a whole and welding the whole thing to the frame?

I'm inclined to think that keeping the lower welds would keep the car stronger b/c the t-bar doesn't seem to be as much of a lateral load bearing structure. Its primary design seems to focus more on just holding the headlights and keeping the hood latched.

What's your opinion on this and why?
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 05:39 PM
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Id say the t-bar mod will be stronger because you are keeping the lower factory spot welds in place.

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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 05:53 PM
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Default Re: JDM Front...t-bar or whole rad support, what's stronger?

^^, then again...depending on the year of the car, (IE:2001) that means the factory welds would be 9 years old at least...wouldn't newer welds be (in theory) stronger than say 9 year old welds? or say the car is from '97 when the ITR debuted in the US...those welds would be 13 years old now...just sayin...
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 06:17 PM
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Default Re: JDM Front...t-bar or whole rad support, what's stronger?

Do it the t-bar way because its easier and stronger. Why take out the whole support when u don't have to...

Here is mine......
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Old Aug 20, 2010 | 03:02 PM
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word, looks good man. get some paint on that thing!!

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Old Aug 20, 2010 | 03:05 PM
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Default Re: JDM Front...t-bar or whole rad support, what's stronger?

i also did the T bar and it is perfectly strong
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Old Aug 20, 2010 | 04:12 PM
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x2 on the T-bar route, anyone else
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Old Aug 20, 2010 | 06:26 PM
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Default Re: JDM Front...t-bar or whole rad support, what's stronger?

Originally Posted by NecroFIesh
word, looks good man. get some paint on that thing!!
Its already painted, check my itr rebuilt thread...
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Old Aug 20, 2010 | 06:47 PM
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Default Re: JDM Front...t-bar or whole rad support, what's stronger?

This is a good info
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Old Aug 20, 2010 | 06:47 PM
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Default Re: JDM Front...t-bar or whole rad support, what's stronger?

T bar for sure
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Old Aug 20, 2010 | 10:31 PM
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Default Re: JDM Front...t-bar or whole rad support, what's stronger?

the way in the pic is the same way i did mine.
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Old Aug 20, 2010 | 10:38 PM
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Default Re: JDM Front...t-bar or whole rad support, what's stronger?

since u guys are on topic...where can i buy just the t-bar or a jdm rad support...its all im missing for my front...
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Old Aug 21, 2010 | 05:35 AM
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Default Re: JDM Front...t-bar or whole rad support, what's stronger?

What is a stronger setup? Retaining the USDM core support and just swapping the JDM T-bar. What is the better or best method for a JDM front? That's for you to decide.
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Old Aug 21, 2010 | 07:40 PM
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Default Re: JDM Front...t-bar or whole rad support, what's stronger?

Originally Posted by cibao2ner
since u guys are on topic...where can i buy just the t-bar or a jdm rad support...its all im missing for my front...

Check your local jdm warehouses, ebay and honda-tech classifieds....
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