looking for pros and cons of each, and why most the cars ive seen use the hand staging brake over the line lock.

thanks

 

They work well i had to run two but most dont use them cause most classes dont allow them

 

A line loc is useless on a fwd. U have to roll in ....hit the brake.... hit the button... let go of the brake... hit the gas ...let go of the clutch and the button. Use the staging brake. Every stick shift race car should have one. I just installed a kens kustom brake in my buddies mustang. With the stage brake u don't have to fumble your feet around while staging.

 

 

only reason i dont want the kens kustom is it takes away your rear brakes from the pedal right? that would make me not want to ever drive my car on the street...

 

I hit the button on Prestage then force roll the car another 6inches to Stage.No fumble experienced yet..the only setback with the line lock is when a fuse blows -Red Light.

 

yeah i don't understand why pro stock cars dont just use hand staging brakes.

 

It probably has to do with how much time it takes for the staging brake to fully release the brakes vs the line lock doing it instantly or at a faster rate. Also reflex wise it's probably easier to push or release a button compared to pulling or releasing a lever. Only thing I can think of.

 

Alan Johnson uses a staging brake and he is a really good leaver. I think most of the guys in pro stock use a line-loc because they like to hold the car in gear in every gear. If you watch the in car on most the guys they hold the lever in place. They don't take their hand off until it's time to push to throw the chutes.

I think in a FWD car the staging brake just works easier for what we are trying to do. It makes pre loading way easier!

 

I just found it easier then using the e brake.

 

If your worried about not having the rear breaks with a staging brake, use a CNC staging brake (the one without the resovor). I bought one because I was worried about the same thing. The CNC staging brake installs inline to the rear breaks. When you dont have the handle pulled the fluid will flow like the hand brake is not there. So on the street and the end of the track you will still have rear breaks.

 

I was thinking u could do that. It makes sense

 

link to a nice one? and how does it not effect the front brakes if it is all still tied into the same system?

 

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-760002/ this is what i used. two on the rear cause they can't be used in diagnol braking systems

 

This link and more info please.

 

yea dont need a link to a line lock ive hooked them up before i mean a link to a cnc staging brake

 

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=CNC+staging+brake

 

Its the 'SERIES 412 Staging Brake' by CNC Inc. It has a valve that blocks the fluid from backing up into the resivor when the handle is pulled. But when the handle is not pulled the valve allows the fluid to flow freely through the cylinder when the brake pedal is used. It acts like the hand brake is not even there. I have one and I had the same concern, so I tested it. As soon as I pulled the handle not even an inch nothing could flow through the inlet of the cylinder. Try this link and see if it works. If not just go to the www.cncbrakes.com and go to hand and staging brakes. Select the series 412.

http://www.cncbrakes.com/hsb.asp?grp...412&subseries=

 

What nobodys mentioned is why not staging brake on the fronts? I've been thinking about that for a while. Seems like it would hold better. Use the E-brake to burnout, and CNC staging brake on the fronts for staging. More than one occasion I've deep staged because I had to little e-brake hold going on with the rears. A few VERY close red-lights were also the result of the deep stage. Maybe I need to "man-up" and pull it harder (that's what she said).

 

Well for one thing, the e-brake uses cables and will not pull hard enough and/or grip the rear breaks hard enough. Using the staging brake will use the hydrolic hard lines just like using the foot break. So the staging break will grip and hold harder and stronger. My former tuner had a hot rod civic and he told me the same. He said the e-brake doesnt compare to hydro breaks.
Now, I dont see why setting them for the fronts would hurt or cause problems, except preloading the tires. Youll be able to preload everything up to the outside of the axles. The breaks will keep you from preloading the tires. And from what I understand you want to preload the entire drivetrain including the tires. But correct me if Im wrong.

 

The factory e brake can easily lock the rear tires......no problem

 

good point, never thought about it. Your are technically preloading the rim against the tire as well. I gotta think about this for a second...(old guy stuff.)

 

I had my line-lock teed to my front brakes..works great everytime except when I'm asleep on the line.

 

Ok so lets say you have line locks and you are using 2 step on a button. So you get to the line stomp on the breaks. Activate line locks and two step, stomp on the clutch and gas. Light turns green and release the line locks & 2 step and clutch all at the same time?? This is were im loss becasue i dont see how this is preloding the tranny if you have the clutch in.

 

line lock the rears....pre stage...line loc, then stage....it will drag the rears and preload the driveline...really the simplest way is just to use a staging brake or the good old fashioned e brake.