Normally, this might be the type of thread that could cause a riot if posted by a noob, but given my experience as a serial R owner and years spent in this forum, hopefully that can be avoided.

I have both the money and the desire but theoretically speaking here...

I used to have a B18B in my other Integra RS that was turbocharged. Turbonetics T3/T4 60mm trim. 8psi. It was your basic Drag kit. If I were to go back to an FI set up on my ITR maybe what I would do is pull the original engine and swap in a JDM B18C5 and turbo that... this way if it grenades I still have the original engine intact. Of course I could build the JDM engine so that it's bulletproof before the swap... honestly I wouldn't be pushing that much boost. 6 or 7 psi tops. To build or not to build... To turbo or not to turbo... grrr!

Or maybe I just need a cold shower.

 

You need another car for that. With the money it sounds like you are willing to spend, why not get an EG and boost that instead.

 

Yeah but if I'm going to buy another car it's going to be an NSX.

 

I missed boost as well when my car was being built. Yeah 500+hp R i know...hate love it take it as you will....but I drive it almost daily when I can.

If you are only going to run 6psi or so, I would just run it on your C5 motor. You will not blow it or need to be scared.

Yes people will say just get a hatch etc...but why when you can drive you R. There is nothing like it.

 

You say only 6 or 7psi now until you keep turning it up higher. Build the bottom end, go for 15psi. Sleeve it, 84mm, fully built, 25psi and it'll keep going...

If you're going to do that in the R, I suggest using a GSR block and tranny.

 

Naw I set my B18B @ 8psi and left it there. That was plenty. That car hauled ***.
Also, for the sake of the argument let's say I don't want to charge on anything other than a C5.

 

soooo why not find a tired c5 (jdm or us spec) that is not stolen, build it a little bit for safety and have fun with it? i bet, if you took your time, you could make a SUPER clean install that did not hack up your R much if at all.

 

Yup, this is what I'm thinking!

 

Why not spend the money on seat time?

 

I've already done all that. I used to autox and have done countless track days etc. I'm a lot more low key these days. The way I drive now, it's unlikely my car would see 8400 rpm very often. I've gotten slower and slower and ever since I bought the Caddy back in 06 I'm in the Grandpa business now. Don't get me wrong. I still enjoy the car but I don't have to be going 100mph plus to get satisfaction out of owning it. Why charge then? Because I want to know that when I put the pedal down that it's going to be there. My car is pretty much a garage queen these days. It's a toy, but one that I seriously love and would never give up. I really wish I could find 00-779 as this was my first R and have many fond memories.

 

You know, I'm kind of in the same boat as you... I miss being able to roll on the throttle in 5th and actually have power, nevermind having some serious power without all the noise associated with big power all motor.. cause you basically cant make big na power out of a b series without a loud straight through exhaust... yet on a boosted setup its gravy to make big power and keep it quiet.

Truth be told, boosted is nice, and a mild setup on your ITR might not be such a bad idea, there is no reason why you cant boost it and run 7-9psi all day long on a solid tune.

You should be able to build a nice daily street setup on stock block for very little money IMO and not some slapped together junk yard **** either lol. I wouldnt bother ripping out the C5 to build it or to prevent yourself from damaging the "original motor". Everyone thinks theses cars are going to be such big collector cars so they should be kept as original as possible.. I say boost the hoor, if it blows up, who cares, time for ls bottom end+more boost lol.

Besides, you can always un-boost it after the fact.

 

I'm one of these people. My car is totally bone stock and very clean although there is some mileage on it. I know what you mean about how it would be "safe" to run low boost on a C5. I think that's true but I'd still prefer to boost on a JDM while my matching engine is sitting safely on a bench in my garage, simply for this fact.

 

I remember several years ago when I got the boost bug. I seriously thought about building a turbo engine for my Prelude. After thinking about it, I kept my Prelude as it was, and bought a 240SX and swapped an SR20 into it. It's making around 300 whp. I have NO regrets. Got a new car to play with, I got to keep my Prelude, and I have a turbo RWD car to have fun with.....all for probably even less than it would've been to build my Prelude for boost. Besides, a turbo on a FWD car doesn't sound as fun.

 

I don't mean this as a negative against anyone, but I don't understand why people boost a Type R. Out of all the 1990-2000 model year cars in the Honda lineup, the ITR is the last car that needs forced induction.

FI takes away the motors charm. Sure, it becomes faster, but it also becomes more difficult to drive fast and explore the revlimit. I know that with boost you don't need to hit vtec when driving "sportingly", but what's the point of that? You bought an ITR with an 8400rpm redline that sounds and performs absolutely fantastic in that rpm range. Why not use it?

If you want a fast boosted car, there are dozens upon dozens to choose from, right now, on dealer lots and in the used car section. You can have FWD, AWD or RWD--your pick.

Maybe I'm just missing it or don't get it, but I just don't like FI ITRs. They introduce heat on the track and they bump you into an ungodly autox class. Both of which the ITR excels at in stock or slightly modified form.

Plus, the C5's soul gets muted in favor of more power.

And FWIW, my daily driver is a Mazdaspeed3. Boost works perfectly for that application, for me.

 

Todd00 I see your points for sure and while you're right about FI not being a very natural choice for the C5 going from a boosted teg to an NA teg can make you long for the power. I've actually decided against boosting FYI. I think maybe I was just getting a bit sentimental about my RS.

 

there is arguments for both sides here. but really. isnt it about what you want?

my 97R is turboed, and daily driven. and i love it. nothing is hacked up, so when i change my mind, ill just throw the stock **** back on and have a stock R again (lol...right). its low boost right now (>300whp) and its quick, but not that fast. but fast enough and i love it... any power beyond that i will probably just buy an EVO...

 

He said exactly what I was thinking.

 

I know. Todd00 That was really eloquently put.

 

Ive been back and forth on boosting the R so many times. I keep going back to its roots. Even to the point where I say, do I even bother opening it up or should I leave it stock with bolt ons? Its just different to have a all motor B series that runs like a type R. I'd love to go 2L, and higher compression even leaving the stock head. But IDK. Sure boost is fun but boosting a Type R makes it not what its about. To make 200HP with a 1.8L all motor, its pretty amazing Honda did that from the factory. To make 200WHP with even an LS motor with a turbo is like effortless. Sure you can do it on less pounds of boost but it sucks to have such a nice creation and to be easily out done by someone with a motor thats worth $500 or so. Honestly do what you want, its your vehicle, make it yours and your creation. Dont look at resale or what others would like or others would hate. Look at what you like and want.

 

VROOOOOOOOOOOM *PPPPSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Yea, You miss it dont you

 

I whole-heartedly agree with Todd00. I bought my R for the character and style that it brings to the sport arena. It has held a spot in sport enthusiasts hearts for many years, and continues to carry the mystique that pushed it to the top of of the heap when it first entered the US market. I plan on keeping my R as original as possible, just as the owners of the 50's muscle cars do, and IMHO, preserving the rarity of the car and it's nature. I see nothing wrong with others modifying their cars if that is their desire; however, I will be doing my best to keep the intrinsic value of the R intact.

 

I must say, that's a solid first post!

 

I agree with you Todd.

On the other hand, I have a greddy kitted itr at ~300whp.

The two areas I think the itr is lacking in are; 1) power and 2) not rwd.

Soo..... I've addressed #1. :O

For lapping days, yes heat is a killer.

But for a street car, boost is a lot of fun.

 

Black R, I disagree about the RWD comment. The FWD is what makes the ITR so awesome at cornering and grip etc.

 

I had a turbo GSR and I miss the boost to sometimes. I think a low boost application of 6-7 psi wont take away from the car's dynamics. Im thinking of putting on a JRSC on mine soon. I dont like the thought of getting ran by V-6 Mustangs soon.