can this be done? without messin up the ride? reason why is because i wanna go lower so i would be adding top hats and lowering the spring perch the same travel distance that the top hat gained and not touch it and still adjust it from the lower mounting perch,


heres my idea. id like to hear some feedback

 

whats the lowest you can go in these babies?? type ones or 2's???

 

Dont bother. There has been a few threads about this.
The shocks are already shortend.

 

^ thats not what im worried about.
i know the shocks are already super short the reason why i wanna do this is to be able to keep adjusting it from the lower mount without changing the preload.
because if i do what my picture said, i will keep the same preload and gain whatever amount the top hat occupied of room to go lower

i dont think im being clear enough i thought the chart would explain it. if you have F&F youll understand what im talking about.

us f2 users CANNOT use the spring adjusting perch to adjust height. only the bottom mounting perch. the spring perch is not supposed to be moved due to the fact that doing so ( going lower or higher using the spring perch) would change the already set preload. but for those of us that wanna go lower theres a limit. when we "go low" we can only go as low until the actual shock hits the bottom of the lower mounting piece. adding the top hat would bring the shock higher while keeping the same preload (if the distance of the loaded spring is kept) thus giving us room to go lower but theoretically we would not be able to go "as high" as the coilover with no top hat because the spring has been moved down ( but same preload)



please tell me if im not being clear enough i really wanna try this
chip in u guys ideas

 

anyone tell me why this would NOT work.



problems im thinking about:

1 the to hat would make me lower the spring so low to keep the factory preload that i wont be able to adjust the "real" (lower) adjusting mount that much, leaving me almost on the ground.

2 i will end up with a different preload even though the distance of the spring inside the shock would be the same as before (from where the spring begins all the way to the top where it touches the rubber bushing in the top hat).

3 i will become discouraged and not try it.

4 it will work and my warranty will get void even though the preload wasnt changed

 

car wouldn't be lowered at all, based on your picture and description. all you would be doing is allowing the shock shaft to be extended and help out the ride and valving.

the spring will still be the same length, so car will not be lower...

 

Damn, F2s dont go low enough for you? I can go another 3-4 inches lower and im already pretty low. Come on bro, you will bottom out the chassis way before you bottom out the suspension. Do you have Type 2s?

 

https://honda-tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes-54/function-form-type-2-extended-top-hats-2728583/

This Guy did just what you wanted to do. Putting extended top hats on a ff coilover is a no no.

Extended top hats do not lower your car.

 

can you please tell me when i said extended top hats ALONE will lower my car? are you not reading All my words? im saying they will allow me to go go lower im seriously make a video explaining twhat i really want to say. most users of function and form do not even know how to adjust them. they adjust them as they would like any other coilover, by lowring the spring perch which is totally wrong and against what F&F sayis in their instructions.

they are okay. at the front om tucking like 1/4 of my 195/50/15
not enough and im all the way down ( adjusting them as stated above which is the correct way)

you kind of proved what i want to say and yes the car will go lower because i will lower the spring perch whatever distance the extended top hat gains in order to keep the same spring preload.




AM I BEING MORE CLEAR?

 

and i agree on slapping the shock towers like crazy as well as the tie rods and breaking axles.


what i dont understand is how people are getting shitty rides with the extended top hats.
as i was reading i noticed that they probably failed to set the exact same spring load as the coilover had prior to the extended top hats leading to a sloppy ride.

 

The reason why you get crappy ride with extended top hats with shortened body shocks is because you lose piston travel. I'm pretty shure the guys above posted this and if you don't believe them or me then I'd advise you to try it yourself and waste $$.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...light=top+hats

I take pride in your sig BTW

 

Foroget it.

This is from patrickgsr94
Exactly. Short body shocks + extended top hats = baaaad idea. Shocks will be topping out all the time, which means the tire will have trouble maintaining contact with the road on uneven surfaces. Basically your tires will be hopping and skipping all over the place.


Sence you dont want to listen go ahead and do what you want. Oh, and i never said that you said top hats would lower your car.

 

thank you sir! thats the kind of idea or thought i was looking for. i never thought about that.

i tried thinking of different scenarios yadda yadda but thats one i didnt think about.

oh and sorry if i gave attitude to anyone.

 

<------ OWNED lol

someone should sticky this lol