For my ek 4dr ex ????

 

hint...bigger engines make more power

 

Why pay an absurd amount of money for a B16B when a B18C is much easier to get ahold of, bigger, and will make more power.

 

another hint...bigger engines make more power for a longer period of time in the power band, not just some little blip on a dyno graph showing a large hp number like smaller engines do

A broad power band performs wonders

 

 

THNX GSR IT IS DEN

 

yeah bro dont get a b16 get a gsr instead it has more power overall. and if you do get that gsr. getting the type r is alot of money but the power is insaneeeeeee

 

oh. obd1 is very tuneable and obd2 isnt as tuneable like obd1. so you must decide if you are going all motor or boost. if you go boost on that gsr get the obd1. as i stated before obd1 is better for tuning and obd2 has limitations

 

I wouldnt even pay that kind of money after all it's still a b16.
Ill take a b18c any day over a b16b.

 

In this case, the engine can run either OBD designation, it's just a matter of what ecu to use, that's it

 

this thread is a fail, it all depends what do you want to do, if your going to boost your engine, gsr is better, if your just going to swap it, ctr is better,

if your planing to trade your car after the swap that's a whole other story...

it all depends if your going to keep it forever or sell/trade your car..... which most people do anyways....

 

There is nothing wrong with an all motor gsr swap, don't mislead people...it makes more torque. A torqueless B16B is no faster all motor stock for stock

 

Get the b16b swap it comes with jdm LSD 4.7fd tranny and gsr doesn't come with LSD, 4.4fd. The b16b is high revving 8400rpm with intake side dual valve springs, gsr doesn't. But If your not getting a complete swap I'll just said yea get the gsr.

 

Gee, that's funny, i have sold a number of gsr swaps over the years that came with LSD....have you forgotten that it was available on jdm models??

 

and this is according to who? your own opinion? the gsr has more torque yes, but its not torque that wins races but a matter of other variables as well.
My b16b ek9 beats gsr's at the track as well as type r integras. i've done 14.5 on the 1/4 mile, a time some gsr's have never seen.

and the stock b16b has a power output of 185hp, while the b18c gsr has 170hp from factory.... less hp on the gsr's end.... both are good engines so you don't mislead people. i think the b16b is a great platform to start with, after all its jus a destroked b18 block, which can be turned to 1800 wit a simple change of crank and rods.

 

I am a noob when it comes to hondas but correct me if I'm wrong but GSR's are not JDM at all. Unless I'm mistaken the only thing that would be like a Japanese GSR is the Integra Si Vtec.

 

you guys are hilarious with the arguement over a b16b or b18c....personally i'd go with the b18c for two main reasons. 1. Price, you can buy a b18c and mod it some for the price of a b16b and be over 185hp. 2.Potential, the b18 has way more modification potential

$kreech, torque may not be what wins races, but torque is what makes your horsepower and moves your car. also your ek9 may beat integras that's because weight is a big factor

OP its totally up to you, people are going to give you mixed feelings all day. If you want cheap power do a b18b turbo which will beat both the b18c and b16b in stock form with minor bolt ons....if you want beasty torque and power of a b18c5 then do an H22a or F20b swap mated to a bseries transmission......if you want more potential yet then do a k20 or k24/k20 swap or ls/b20 vtec.....and if then yet you are still not satisfied then I guess a J swap is in order for you

good luck

 

lolololol when we mention gsr we are talking about the motor which is a b18c

 

I would definitely go with the GSR. The CTR has more horsepower yes, but only waaayy up top, the GSR is going to be faster in the rest of the rpm range.

 

which is 1 of the very important variables in my post. and the OP has an ek civic ex... definitely lighter than an integra.

its all up to the OP and wat his future plans are, but i would definitely go for the b16b... it has more aggressive cams, higher comp pistons, PnP head and dual valve springs already. to make more power jus slap in a b18 crank and rods and reuse the ctr pistons and head. to make more power in the gsr u would have to upgrade cams (which means upgrade valve train as well) and put in higher comp pistons, which would take more money than upgrading the b16b. this is my point.

 

the b16b is the same deck height as the b18c only diference is less stroke and more compresion on the piston dome if you were to trow a b16 head on a b18c and some ctr pistons you would have a similar engine exept for the compression would be much higher cus of the longer stroke on the b18c. but other than that they are the same block exept the internals offcourse


I my self would go b18c and invest in some ctr pistons and ctr cams and a b16 trany then it would be real fun

 

Ha ha, everybody always seems to think that the particular engine in their own car is the fastest, LOL Did you foret we were talking about JDM engines here, LOL The JDM B18C gsr has the same compression as our usdm ITR at 10.6:1 and makes 180hp and 130ft lbs tq! Here is the really important part....not only does it makes this good numbers, but makes it for a much "broader" stretch of the rpm range, not just a hickup like the smaller B16B which has only a 5hp blip of peak power at max rpm and "way" less torque

I have owned 2 B16B's...they are ok, but i got rid of them for B18C's and will NEVER go back! As far as racing goes, i know your car is peppy, it would be even faster with the larger B18C


Let me educate you.....

In Japan they had two versions of their B18C

- the ITR with 11:1 compression and make 200hp

- the Honda Integra SiR with B18C gsr with 10.6:1 compression with 180hp

 

If you turbo/build later on, get the GSR
If your just gonna daily, I/H/E, save up like $400 more and get a Type-R.
The CTR is way overpriced IMO.

 

GSR imo