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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 07:01 PM
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im just about to finish my ls vtec set up its got 82mm nippon racing pistons on filled ls rods with a itr oil pump amd a moroso oil pan its got a fully built gsr head with blackwork racing valve springs retainers and flat faced valves also got a skunk2 intake manifold with a 68mm tb and a hytech replica header and a p28 with hondata s300 in it.My question is i got crower stage 3 cams and was wonder if i should get rid of them and get skunk2 pro 2 im just worried about valve to piston contact with that big of cam and also was worried about my redline i was think maybe like 8200 but any answers would be awesome thanks
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 07:04 PM
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i wouldnt get pro2s for that build. i have pro2s in mine and they like to rev high. i rev mine to 9200 and they feel liek they still want to keep pulling.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 07:05 PM
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ya thats what i was thinkin how much do u think i could get for the crowers still nib ? where would i sell them also
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 07:06 PM
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not sure, post them on here for sale.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 07:07 PM
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awesome idea also does my build sound like a good one
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 07:08 PM
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try a set of s2 tuner 2
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 07:09 PM
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Default Re: ls vtec cam selection?

pro1's are good all around cams
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 07:09 PM
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never really heard of blackwork valvesprings or retainers. and im not sure about nippon pistons. i used rs machine. alot of people on here are using rs machine.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 07:12 PM
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ya but everythings already assembled and just waithin on me to get new cams or try those out has anyone used crower cams before i only seen stuff about skunk2 or toda really nothing about crower
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 07:13 PM
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crower is a good cam.. stick with what u have, try it out and see if it makes power, then go from there.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 07:14 PM
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tru dat i was just thing about my mid range power cause i know the cam profile is frickin huge and was uncertain about makin the low end power
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 07:17 PM
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what were u going for? for power
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 07:18 PM
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i want a daily driver and weekend racer but mostly all around a good mix
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 07:21 PM
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Pro2's.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 07:25 PM
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ya i dont think the crowers would be a good cam for daily driving but i could be wrong
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 94civiclover
ya i dont think the crowers would be a good cam for daily driving but i could be wrong
All cams listed would be good for daily driven and making power it depends on supporting mods..

there's a few 82mm motors running pro2's with great results, hell even 81mm builds running pro2's show great gains.. just depends on what you want..
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 07:32 PM
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ok kool thanks for all the good advice
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ALL M0T0R
All cams listed would be good for daily driven and making power it depends on supporting mods..

there's a few 82mm motors running pro2's with great results, hell even 81mm builds running pro2's show great gains.. just depends on what you want..

they also like high compression, and to rev high, hes not going to be able to rev them out with ls rods and bolts.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 07:35 PM
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i got arp rod bolts but thats why i was only gonna rev it out to 8200 8500 at the most just to be safe
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Originally Posted by allmotor-B
they also like high compression, and to rev high, hes not going to be able to rev them out with ls rods and bolts.
False -

Compression is one tenth of the equation for power, Most people can run pro2's on stock gsr or b16 compression, support mods such as manifold, header/exhaust actually play a bigger role on these cams then compression, they require alot of breathing mods.

Yes, they like to rev and require reving higher then the oem redline but you'll make power within the rev range, then you would if you went with say a itr cam.. the low end on the pro2's is dumb retarded..

MOST, pro2 builds dont rev past 9k..
Also, the common misconception with the "ls" motor is its weak, this isn't the case..

The only weaklink in the ls motor is the rodbolts, replacing the rodbolts with arp / GE 9mm rod bolts will make them just as strong as anything else.
The LS crank is also the strongest honda crank made in b series.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 07:37 PM
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yeah. id get better rods if u get the pro2s, so u cna take it to 95
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 94civiclover
i got arp rod bolts but thats why i was only gonna rev it out to 8200 8500 at the most just to be safe
There's nothing to be safe about, the bottem end with upgraded rod bolts will be just fine... There's plenty of builds with stock ls bottem ends runing to 9k+ with just rodbolts replaced.
An example of one build is D-Rob's fathers b20vtec running a stock b20 bottem end, (ls/b20 bottem ends are the same)

You can rev as high as you need and where your motor makes power, if you choose a cam that only needs you to rev to 8500, do so, if your cam requires you to rev to 9 k, you can do that as well, if the supporting mods are in place.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 07:40 PM
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very tru but could i get eagle rods with those pistons
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Originally Posted by allmotor-B
yeah. id get better rods if u get the pro2s, so u cna take it to 95
Again, rods aren't the issuse here..
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 94civiclover
very tru but could i get eagle rods with those pistons
Then do so, why skimp in the first place?

oem rods are just fine if you choose to use those.
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