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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 05:09 AM
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There was a article in Import Tuner that stated, you could gain 21 HP, by using the DC muffler, headers, and cold air intake.. i was wonder if any one had add any of this product to there RSX and had dynoed it .
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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 05:27 AM
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i beleive it was 18. ? hp gain to the wheels, with DC protype header ...twin loop exhaust...and DAC short ram intake
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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 05:53 AM
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Be very suspicious of Import Boner's power pages...

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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 06:01 AM
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It all depends on the baseline run. If their baseline was 160-165, that would explain the 21hp jump. Many rsx-s's are hitting 165-175whp stock, which would negate much of that supposed gain.
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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 06:07 AM
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they were saying the base was about 161 or 162, i am not exectaly sure.. i dont buy that magazine, i was just reading the article, and at the end there were about 182, or 183 i belive to the wheel so they said
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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 06:59 AM
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i hear ya...160 hp vs 200 at thw flywheel...i dont beleive the Rsx losses that much Hp from the engine to the wheels ...
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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 07:39 AM
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thats the same thing i was thinking, thats to much of a power lose


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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 07:47 AM
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thats the same think i was think, thats to much of a power lose
i hear ya ....maybe if it was a s2000 ...i'd beleive that power loss ...but not in a Rsx .....
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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 08:19 AM
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i hear the same thing and i hope there right, cause those are some nice gains, but i would like some confermation, before i spend my money,

well either way i gona spend it but i would like to know
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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 08:27 AM
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so your saying that a stock k20 (type S) dynos at 160 whp .... i dont think so...
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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 09:07 AM
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most of the dyno's i seen from people online are at 170 HP, so there ( import tuners) dyno .. lost 10 HP.. which dosent make sense.. unless all the people online are lieing, which wouldnt make sense either
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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 09:12 AM
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i beleive it dynos at 170+ ....so would that mean a 170 whp Rsx with Dc goodies would dyno at 190 whp ....?
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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 09:26 AM
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thats what i am think, if i dyno my car and it dyno's at i 170, then with the DC parts ill be up to 190... i really need to dyno my car
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There's a joke going around RSX owners that Import Tuner may have just accidentally left the a/c on during that baseline run. Anyway, 180-185 hp sounds about right with those mods. That would be a 10-15whp gain from those mods...
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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 11:19 AM
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There's a joke going around RSX owners that Import Tuner may have just accidentally left the a/c on during that baseline run. Anyway, 180-185 hp sounds about right with those mods. That would be a 10-15whp gain from those mods...
oic...and that woud be so it woudl seem the DC parts make alot of power...that would really suck if they did that
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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 02:17 PM
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My Type S with just a AEM SRI hit 180.3 on the dyno a few weeks ago. I asked the guys at the shop (ATP in Fremont, CA.) and they said some cars will make more power then the exact same car with the same mods. Depends on how it was broken in and +/- hp when it was manufactured. The next run was 176hp, and the 3rd was 175.5hp. As the engine got hotter, it produced less power, but that is natural with cars and rising temps. But there is no way that a Type S will make 160hp to the wheels, thats a 40hp loss in drivetrain.
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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 05:31 PM
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Haha, that is pretty funny considering that the AC compressor clutch disengages at full throttle, so it wouldn't make any difference.

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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 05:06 AM
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at full throttle...it shoudl desengage when it hits Vtec .....Vtec + a/c not a good combo
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 08:28 PM
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The way I see it:

If they used the SAME car for both the baseline and the final product, then it's all fair game.

Perhaps that RSX was built with a weaker motor than other RSX's?

As long as they used the same conditions and the same car, it's all fair game.
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Old Sep 19, 2002 | 06:14 AM
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Sport Compact Car ran some tests like this a few issues ago. They had two cars with bolt-on, one with comptech parts, the other with DC bolt ons. One of them was def. faster, but I can't remember which. I think it was whichever one had I/H/E, so prolly the DC Sports car. I will look it up when I get home and post.

Like the other guy said, I would be VERY suspicious of Import Tuner I have seen them BS'ing on several occasions.
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Old Sep 19, 2002 | 08:03 AM
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I will look it up when I get home and post.
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Old Sep 21, 2002 | 08:22 AM
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Ok ... sorry this isn't exactly Thursday night, but I did find the article. The magazine is the June 2002 issue of SCC, with the RSX supertest on the cover.

The cars they dyno'ed (RSX Type S) had this baseline: 172hp/124 lb-ft tq. So if that is reasonable, then it is safe to say that the other results are reasonable, too.

Here are the stock performance numbers:

0-60mph - 6.9 seconds
1/4 mile - 15.0@94.5 mph

This is not in magazine order, but in the order that I am looking things up. I am also listing engine mods, not suspension/wheels, etc. Some of these cars had 18's on, so that may effect their dyno's.

Test Car #1
Intake: DC Sports DAC Intake
Exhaust: DC Sports Twin Canister System (TCS) exhaust
Header: DC Sports 4-1
Rice: DC Sports billet oil cap

Dyno #1: 188hp/132 lb-ft tq (+17.8hp @ 7600rpms / +13.5 lb-ft @ 4700rpms)

New Performance Numbers:

0-60mph - 6.7 seconds
1/4 mile - 14.9@95.6 mph

Test Car #2
Intake: Comptech High Flow Filter Element
Exhaust: Comptech 2.5 in Cat-Back Exhaust
Header: Comptech Stainless Steel Header
Rice: None

Dyno #2: 178hp/128 lb-ft tq (+7.7hp @ 8000rpms / +5 lb-ft @ ?)
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Old Sep 23, 2002 | 04:31 AM
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Dyno #1: 188hp/132 lb-ft tq (+17.8hp @ 7600rpms / +13.5 lb-ft @ 4700rpms)

thats a perrty nice gain
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Old Sep 23, 2002 | 05:15 AM
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nice gains...and pretty good numbers.....in Type R territory
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Old Sep 23, 2002 | 12:35 PM
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Definately good gains!
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