I have a 2000 Honda accord coupe 5speed with a F23 A1 engine and i wanna add more horsepower! I have added a AEM CAI and bought a skunk2 exhaust ( its on the way) and next thing is a header. But after that i wanna know all the things i can do to add more HP and reach it to about 200hp withOUT Nitrous or a turbocharger yet. I know these cars are heavy. And also does anyone know LIGHT racing rims but also look sweet i can purchase. Im not buying all this at once so a maybe a good order to buy the parts in would help alot..(Rims will be last). Thanks alot for all the help guys

 

For you to reach that 200hp mark, you will definetelly need to take your motor apart to add some new gadgets in it, but most important... you will need to read, watch and learn a bit more to understand how engines make power, i don't mean to be rude, i'm just being clear.
You'll free up a few horses by adding an intake and a header, will also see an improvement with the exhaust, however... this won't put you much closer to that mark.
Consider improvements to the suspension and brakes while you're in the mood of upgrading the car, because power without control... isn't good.

 

i feel that your power goal isn't realistic based on what you're asking (..but not impossible at all). forgive me if i'm wrong, but you're abilities may be lacking if you've run out of power adding modification ideas after intake, header and exhaust. don't worry though, if you are committed to it you can learn all you need on the web to build an enjoyable F23.

to help you get started check out these threads:

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-prelude-4/%40%40%40%40-help-pirate-choose-next-f23-based-winter-build-%40%40%40%40-2433157/
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-prelude-4/%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A-finally-dynoed-200whp-all-motor-nonvtec-%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A-1495684/
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-accord-1990-2002-2/h23-intake-manifold-onto-f23-head-2411929/
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-accord-1990-2002-2/f23-build-parts-list-guidance-1723693/

you can also check out my build thread in my sig.

 

So the cheaper way out would be just stick a turbocharger on it and your set?

 

simply put.. yes. it's been said the F23 is a good candidate for turbo builds.

 

thanks alot buddy..just one more question, do you know any good turbo kits for a f23? thanks alot. if u have links or brand names and places to purchase would be helpful.

 

Honestly the main point that's trying to relayed to you is that you need to do more research before you do anything beyond bolt-ons. You seem to be a bit lacking in the knowledge department by the questions you ask (WHICH IS FINE, not trying to offend at all, we've all been there!).

We are only trying to help you out in picking the best setup. A lot of people rush into this stuff faster than they should and end up grenading their whole project. You've been given some good advice to start with already.

I'll go a little further and say that turbo "kits" are typically overpriced and do not always include everything you need. It's better if you set some goals, do some research, and work to find parts that will go best with your setup. Start with setting a power goal and a budget.

I wish you luck!

 

Hey thanks a lot for all your input, Guess i just have to research around. And i really dont wanna waste all that money on a turbocharger because i wanna do everything i can to gain more power and decrease weight cause accord is a heavy car. But since its my everyday driving car i don't wanna rebuild the whole engine. Again thanks a lot

 

Sure, and if you have any more specific questions please ask.

 

Well I decided to hold back on the skunk2 exhaust cause I wasn't sure if that's the best one I could get,,I wasn't sure if there are better ones that have better performance and not so loud, so I was wondering if you had any in mind?

 

Im not sure if youve also considered swapping out transmissions for an H22 unit. Lower gearing would be beneficial in a heavy Accord.

 

Honestly muffler choice is mostly personal opinion, as performance is hardly different between most of them to make a difference (especially in N/A, more so with forced induction).

I personally really like the APEXi WSII as it is quite, has a stockish look, and has a nice sound. You may also want to check out the Greddy EVO, as it competes with the WSII in the sound department, though it looks more like a "can" muffler.

I usually don't recommend buying whole exhaust kits because they are way more expensive than they need to be and typically overrated. My friends and I have a good exhaust shop we go to that does catbacks for cheap, so we just have to supply a muffler and resonator (if needed). I recommend checking out exhaust shops in your area first as you may find a good deal.

No doubt that the H22 has the low gearing so many desire, but it all depends on what the OP's plans are. If he/she was planning to do a full N/A build, I'd definitely say go for the H22 trans, but if they were going turbo, I'd say try out the stocker first. They are definitely long gears, but I see a lot of setups on the F23 doing just fine with the stock ratios. Especially on street builds. They often save the driver from excess tire destruction.

Idk, just my 2 cents. It's another personal opinion type of thing.

 

i'm right there with you on both points.

OP: unless you're really into the look (and/or attention) you get from having a 'showy' can muffler, do like Bwill said and have a universal fit oval welded on. Vibrant and Magniflow are two good ones to start with. steer clear of anything that sounds gimmicky.

generally speakind, and for the majority of situations, longer gearing works well with boost and shorter gearing (to keep you in the narrow power band) is more suited for naturally aspirated motors, esp. the high revvers.