Ok guys so i have this 95 ej1 that i bought as a shell back in november of 09, i dropped a usdm gsr motor and tranny (96,000 miles) into the car. I bought the gsr used from a guy who had it boosted on all stock internals was running 11 psi.
I then added a skunk2 pro series intake mani, and cheap spectre cold air intake, neuspeed rear sway bar with custom made support brace,megan front strut bar, konig suspension, some used enkei 15's with kuhmo ecsta asts, and then added a p28 with s300, i had plans for full exhaust and headers, and port matched skunk2 throttle body and later internals but now due to a spun bearing my plans are dramatically changed /= but maybe its for the best. Im hoping someone with more experience than me (me being pretty much only in the honda scene for about a year) can offer some advice to rebuild this thing for autocross but still be a good DD for reliability i want n/a setup (for now) i was thinking B20z block and throw my gsr head on there?? would this be better and more reliable for auto x than rebuilding my gsr? would i see alot more power or just slightly on the bottom end? i an get the b20z stock for about $400 with 60'000 miles let me know what setup would be good for my car i am on a budget of about $800 - $1200 max I would like to get a reliable strong running motor, with decent power, and new tires, and maybe my exhaust and headers as well with these funds possible??? any advice would be much appreciated. =D

 

Thats a pretty small budget for all you want to do with it...
Start off by reading the rules for the sanctioning body you want to run in...
There are limitations for each class and you will probably end up moving up in class with the hybriding you want to do.
400 seems about right for a b20 but you have to figure in the incidentals for swapping the motor. Id say your budget is manageble for engine but not everything else.
Dont try and do it all at once. build what you can afford.
A good running engine is your priority, because without it you'll just sit there looking out the windshield and not going anywhere.

 

Since you have very little experience, use the B20 completely stock for awhile. It's a pretty peppy motor, and should be very reliable. I've been running the same stock-ish B20 for the last 3 years, and a buddy was using it for a year or two before that. I threw rings and bearings in it at some point, but that's it.

There is almost no way you will pick up the motor, new tires, exhaust, and a header for $1200, unless all of them are junk. New (good) autocross-friendly/fast tires will be ~$500 minimum. A decent header will also run you ~$300-400 I'd guess, and I'd see an exhaust being something like $200-300 if found used. If you wanted to open up the motor (putting on the GSR head, or basically ANYTHING internal at all), your number will go out the window in a hurry.

 

yeah i found a b20b block for about $400 i was thinkin throw blockguard $134 on it and a rebuild kit $245 and get all the other neccesities to make it compatible with my gsr head... does that sound about $1000 in price? also would these work in that setup without much work or would i have to bore the block? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ITR-P...#ht_4771wt_939

 

If you want to go faster for autox, I'd suggest running a stock cheap B20B and putting more of your funds towards tires. At least get some better street tires than Kumho AST's if you can't afford a dedicated set of R comps.
Save up some more and later do the VTEC head conversion right, pistons, get it tuned, etc. It'll always cost more than you think and it's risking your investment to half-*** it.

 

You can pick up a complete B20B longblock for ~$700 shipped, and not bother with the blockguard and crap (which you can't just "throw in"; it requires machinework to true the cylinders again). Seriously, I don't know how many times its been said in here, or how many times it will be said again, but you do NOT need a powerful motor to start out autoxing, or doing ANY kind of driving.

 

Adam its the stigma of "I have to build a racecar to race" thing.
Kind of an all or nothing .. too much advice from those who should know better than to tell a noob ... ohh you have to have this and that and this thing over here or you wont be crap.
I have seen too many great drivers drive crappy cars and kick the crap outa everyone.
So having the best and the bling isnt gonna get you 1st place. Thats the truth.
But do they listen??

 

I completeley understand you dont need the best to win its 99% driver 1% car its just alot of my local friends are saying if ive got the block apart then nows the time to drop the cash on internals, and deck it out, but i may just try and find a used b20b also i found out today that my crank is in decent shape and can be turned and have oversize bearings put in? so i was thiking get an oem gsr or itr rebuild kit and just have my gsr block rebuilt? what would be better/cheaper? and i totally agree i need better tires for the track

 

btw stinkycheese where can i pick up that block from? i would like to scope it out

 

Dood find a junk yard... a Japanese engine seller.
A little googling goes a long way

 

PasswordJDM. HMotorsonline also sells them for a reasonable price, but I'm not sure if they have any in stock. Don't listen to your friends. The $700 B20 is basically your cheapest possible option.

 

well ive got a total of $1400 so ive decided to rebuild my gsr... with this budget what all could i replace? all the cranks are getting turned and polished, i was gonna also order a rebuild kit, is that possible to get done with labor charges included

 

Rebuild your engine .. get some tires and get out there.
Seat time is the best thing for you.
Search this forum for information... there is a plethora of it for about any question you have.

 

i think you should have listened to stinky and dirty..not your friends. if you want to be "competitive" in autox the tires are going to do you more good at this point. with that new budget you should buy a longblock like stinky said and then get some decent tires like the other guy said. i take it you friends dont autox or track because they have steered you in the wrong direction. ill use this as an example..i have a b16a with bolt ons. earlier this summer i went to my second autox. there was a guy in a turbo del sol put like 300ish down and he.s been autoxing for a few years now. his buddy had a hatch with about the same power. i think i ran 3 seconds faster than the hatch and something like 6 seconds faster than the del sol.

so once again id listen to stinky and dirty. they will lead you in the right direction if you will let them. stinky has helped me out more than you can imagine.

 

alright guys so i dropped the block off today and i need to know if im getting a good deal or not. The shop is charging $68.50 to hot tank the block, $50.00 to polish the crank, and $80 to turn it, then i would get this rebuild kit http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...1#ht_500wt_956 wich is $310 shipped and these rods http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...#ht_1033wt_939 wich are $236 shipped. also id be replacing the valve stem seals, and cam seals a total of about $804 and i would put everything together myself with a good buddy of mine whos done rebuilds. would this be a good build? for a good price? also is there anything else i should add and my budget is $1600 with the leftover i was gonna get new tires but if theres more things i should add to the internals please let me know now before its too late im ordering the parts tommorow. thanks in advance


Just found this as well http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...#ht_1471wt_939

would that ki and a gaskte set be beter than all the above listed