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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 02:06 AM
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I need some help, im goin to do a swap withing this month but i need some help about what motor to go with. I found a full jdm h22swap for only 1k from one of my friends n i was thinking about buyin it n puttin a bseries tranny on it. I heard h2b is a sick setup. But other ppl tell me i should just go b20vtec or type r. I need some help on with motor will be better for all motor. It will be my dd my goal is to reach atleast 300hp with out a bottle. the motor will be going in a ekhatch. Some help will be greatfull thank you.
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 10:10 AM
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 10:43 AM
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B-series (hehehehhehe)
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 10:57 AM
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i was thinking about doing b20vtec bc of the torgue it has. but h2b has more horse power. anyone has a h2b dd? someone told me that the weak thing about it is that its to heavy n the walls arent that strong.
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by aLlm0t0rboY
i was thinking about doing b20vtec bc of the torgue it has. but h2b has more horse power. anyone has a h2b dd? someone told me that the weak thing about it is that its to heavy n the walls arent that strong.
H2B, basically a poorman's k-series swap. Several of my buddy's running H2B in EG and EK, running low 12's with basic bolt ons.
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by aLlm0t0rboY
I need some help, im goin to do a swap withing this month but i need some help about what motor to go with. I found a full jdm h22swap for only 1k from one of my friends n i was thinking about buyin it n puttin a bseries tranny on it. I heard h2b is a sick setup. But other ppl tell me i should just go b20vtec or type r. I need some help on with motor will be better for all motor. It will be my dd my goal is to reach atleast 300hp with out a bottle. the motor will be going in a ekhatch. Some help will be greatfull thank you.
i don't know how realistic it is to have a 300hp dd motor...i guess to each his own...i'm partially biased towards a B20V only because i had one for a daily driver for like 3-4 years...it's not on the bottle but i'm sure i put down about the same amount of torque as an H2x motor....what do you think??

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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 11:11 AM
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Ok, i dunno about everyone else, but seriously , Stop posting that **** dyno graph.. you prove nothing considering this is not really related, for all you know he could go a built gsr for all motor.

That dyno is different from alot of others
The car / motor is different it will perform differently if tuned or built by another person

stop whoring that graph out.. seriously.
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ALL M0T0R
Ok, i dunno about everyone else, but seriously , Stop posting that **** dyno graph.. you prove nothing considering this is not really related, for all you know he could go a built gsr for all motor.

That dyno is different from alot of others
The car / motor is different it will perform differently if tuned or built by another person

stop whoring that graph out.. seriously.
Yea I was kind of tired of seeing that graph in every ALL MOTOR thread...
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 10:20 PM
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that graph needs to.get banned already.
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 05:26 AM
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that graph needs to.get banned already.
HAHA what the spec of the engine in the graph ?
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 05:30 AM
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 06:21 AM
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thanks, sorry to thread jack, thats some good number for not alot spec
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 06:38 AM
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the way the title of this thread is typed makes me get pissed off.
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ruffrhyder
H2B, basically a poorman's k-series swap. Several of my buddy's running H2B in EG and EK, running low 12's with basic bolt ons.
Low12's? I don't know about that. I must be doing something wrong running 12.91
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by boostedej1
Low12's? I don't know about that. I must be doing something wrong running 12.91
I ran 12.4. I don't think you're doing something wrong. Out of three of us (2 other buddies) we are all running h2b in identical chassis and I'm the only one to break 12's. One of them made 216 whp and the other 208. The one with 216 managed 13.0 and the other guy 13.1. First time out I ran 12.9 then 12.8. After getting tuned with the euro R I picked up 13 whp although different day of tuning I ran first run a 12.7 @ 111 mph then a 12.4 @ 111 MPH.
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 04:08 AM
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Edit: read post above wrong lol
I made 196whp and ran 12.91@105.

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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 07:16 AM
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I hate threads like this. 300hp all motor daily? Possible? Yes. Impractical for someone that clearly doesn't know much about hondas/cars? Yes.
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SamN
I hate threads like this. 300hp all motor daily? Possible? Yes. Impractical for someone that clearly doesn't know much about hondas/cars? Yes.
Quoted for truth
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by boostedej1
Low12's? I don't know about that. I must be doing something wrong running 12.91
i know a guy running consistent 11.9's in a gutted hatch /w h22 euro-r on slicks
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 02:17 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvzYainUrA
in this video he runs a 12.1, but last i've talked to him he's pushing the stock engine into the 11's
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SamN
I hate threads like this. 300hp all motor daily? Possible? Yes. Impractical for someone that clearly doesn't know much about hondas/cars? Yes.
I have nothing to add to this statement.
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 02:46 PM
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Give me $15k and I'll make it happen for you.
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 07:37 PM
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HAHA what the spec of the engine in the graph ?
FAST.

thats all you need to know, however, it would get walked by a faster car that makes less power
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 08:59 PM
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for the whole point of this thread. H2b FTW. i just finished mine, Evolution H2B Kit. JDM H22 longblock, Kidd racing headers, B16 tranny. beast all motor for it being stock, i will outrun any b20vtec built, type r, stock Ks, h2b tegs. and yes its my DD. Highly recomended
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Old Jul 16, 2010 | 05:17 AM
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H2B. I would say from a reliability stand point its a no brainer. 200hp and 160ft with out having to tear into the motor. The only draw backs are that I can see would be depending on the chassis having to bang frame rails, additional swap procedures (grinding on the back of the block, BS removal, crank pulley shave, ect) and being able to deal with the "hood pop".
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