meanwhile in CA.....
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http://www.ama-cycle.org/news/story.asp?id=2072
California lawmakers back EPA compliant requirement for riders of new motorcycles
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Posted June 29, 2010 Email Print
A key California State Assembly committee has endorsed a proposal to require motorcyclists to have EPA-compliant exhaust systems on their model year 2011 and newer motorcycles.
On June 28, the Committee on Transportation voted 8-4 to approve Senate Bill 435, introduced by Sen. Fran Pavley (D-Oxnard-Los Angeles), which would make it illegal to ride a motorcycle on the road built on, or after, Jan. 1, 2011, that doesn't display a federal Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) label certifying the exhaust system meets sound emissions standards.
Riders caught riding model year 2011 or newer motorcycles without this stamp would be issued "fix it" tickets by law enforcement officers.
The measure now goes to the Assembly Appropriations Committee for further consideration.
"Many EPA labels are very difficult to locate on motorcycles," said AMA Western States Representative Nick Haris. "This proposed law could lead to a flurry of tickets for motorcyclists who have legal exhaust systems on their machines with EPA labels that can't be easily seen. It's unreasonable to expect a law enforcement officer to easily locate an EPA label, and it's simply unfair to expect a motorcycle owner to partially dismantle an exhaust system alongside the road to prove the label exists.
"Requiring that a motorcycle display a readily visible EPA label isn't the correct way to address concerns about excessive motorcycle sound," he added. "The only objective way to determine whether a motorcycle complies with sound laws is for properly trained personnel to conduct sound level tests using calibrated meters and an agreed-upon testing procedure."
Haris suggested that concerned California motorcyclists contact their state lawmakers and urge them to reject Senate Bill 435. To do so, go here and select "CA" in the drop down menu.
The AMA has long maintained a position of strong opposition to excessive motorcycle sound. In September 2009, the AMA developed model legislation for use by cities and states seeking a simple, consistent and economical way to deal with sound complaints related to on-highway motorcycles within the larger context of excessive sound from all sources. The model legislation offers an objective method to evaluate motorcycle sound based on the Society of Automotive Engineers' (SAE) J2825 standard, "Measurement of Exhaust Sound Pressure Levels of Stationary On-Highway Motorcycles." For more information, click here.
-the original bill was going to be retroactive to 1983 bikes and on....
California lawmakers back EPA compliant requirement for riders of new motorcycles
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Posted June 29, 2010 Email Print
A key California State Assembly committee has endorsed a proposal to require motorcyclists to have EPA-compliant exhaust systems on their model year 2011 and newer motorcycles.
On June 28, the Committee on Transportation voted 8-4 to approve Senate Bill 435, introduced by Sen. Fran Pavley (D-Oxnard-Los Angeles), which would make it illegal to ride a motorcycle on the road built on, or after, Jan. 1, 2011, that doesn't display a federal Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) label certifying the exhaust system meets sound emissions standards.
Riders caught riding model year 2011 or newer motorcycles without this stamp would be issued "fix it" tickets by law enforcement officers.
The measure now goes to the Assembly Appropriations Committee for further consideration.
"Many EPA labels are very difficult to locate on motorcycles," said AMA Western States Representative Nick Haris. "This proposed law could lead to a flurry of tickets for motorcyclists who have legal exhaust systems on their machines with EPA labels that can't be easily seen. It's unreasonable to expect a law enforcement officer to easily locate an EPA label, and it's simply unfair to expect a motorcycle owner to partially dismantle an exhaust system alongside the road to prove the label exists.
"Requiring that a motorcycle display a readily visible EPA label isn't the correct way to address concerns about excessive motorcycle sound," he added. "The only objective way to determine whether a motorcycle complies with sound laws is for properly trained personnel to conduct sound level tests using calibrated meters and an agreed-upon testing procedure."
Haris suggested that concerned California motorcyclists contact their state lawmakers and urge them to reject Senate Bill 435. To do so, go here and select "CA" in the drop down menu.
The AMA has long maintained a position of strong opposition to excessive motorcycle sound. In September 2009, the AMA developed model legislation for use by cities and states seeking a simple, consistent and economical way to deal with sound complaints related to on-highway motorcycles within the larger context of excessive sound from all sources. The model legislation offers an objective method to evaluate motorcycle sound based on the Society of Automotive Engineers' (SAE) J2825 standard, "Measurement of Exhaust Sound Pressure Levels of Stationary On-Highway Motorcycles." For more information, click here.
-the original bill was going to be retroactive to 1983 bikes and on....
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http://www.ama-cycle.org/news/story.asp?id=2072
-the original bill was going to be retroactive to 1983 bikes and on....
-the original bill was going to be retroactive to 1983 bikes and on....
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Re: meanwhile in CA.....
well... to be honest... noise abatement and motorcycling have always been at odds, specially off road.
certainly I subscribe to the idea that if you hear a bike you may see the bike. the modern era seems to have lost this ideal
certainly I subscribe to the idea that if you hear a bike you may see the bike. the modern era seems to have lost this ideal
Re: meanwhile in CA.....
I think they're exempt because they're always exempt.
I was on the freeway two years ago when a Big Dog Mastiff came and rode alongside me; that thing was LOUD, it felt like I was riding through an earthquake. He cruised alongside me for about six miles before I got pulled over for not having rear side reflectors and not having proper fender and/or mudflaps that covered 50% of my rear tire. Cruiser guys always get breaks, that Big Dog owner just nonchalantly rode off into the sunset.
Was this thread in GDD before by chance? I see a lot of posts from people I never expected to see outside of GDD.
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Re: meanwhile in CA.....
just run
even the bmw cop bikes are limited to 135 i believe, so you got a few minutes before the heli shows up. F%^$ the Police
CAREAWHOLELOT said it right they just want the $$$$$$$
even the bmw cop bikes are limited to 135 i believe, so you got a few minutes before the heli shows up. F%^$ the PoliceCAREAWHOLELOT said it right they just want the $$$$$$$
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You ever run before? I see people do it all the time, but I don't have the ***** to pull something like that off. If my own life was the only one at risk, hell, I'd do it all the time, but I'd never be able to live with myself if a squad car took out an innocent bystander or if an officer got hurt because I was too cheap to pay a fix it ticket.
When I was a teenager, I ran in my car. Cops got my plate number and arrested me at my house about an hour later. Third degree felony fleeing and I was stuck in a courtroom for two years getting that reduced to a misdemeanor.
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Re: meanwhile in CA.....
you don't even have to speed to get away some times. I am not telling anyone what to do, its a bad idea and if you get caught the fines aren't even worth getting away, but if you feel you can get away, you probley can 
but its on a case by case basis. i've been pulled over many times for my exhaust, and i've stopped, but lane split and its near impossible for a oficer to chase you, its easy to get away real quick and duck out in a neighborhood for a few minutes. I've never been in any high speed pursuits or anything like that but if i can safely get away I WILL
i'm sure i'm gonna get flogged for this post haha
p.s. i know my speeling and grammer suck
but its on a case by case basis. i've been pulled over many times for my exhaust, and i've stopped, but lane split and its near impossible for a oficer to chase you, its easy to get away real quick and duck out in a neighborhood for a few minutes. I've never been in any high speed pursuits or anything like that but if i can safely get away I WILLi'm sure i'm gonna get flogged for this post haha
p.s. i know my speeling and grammer suck
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Re: meanwhile in CA.....
AGREED... totally. I have 7 years under my belt and i'm still learning. You can never be too comfortable on a bike. modding is expensive anyways
and running from cops is a bad idea
and running from cops is a bad idea
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Re: meanwhile in CA.....
I heard about the smog motorcycles in california couple of years ago when i got my bike but nothing in effect yet, but as for the noise tolerance hopefully if they were to pass that then it should also affect the harleys as well...otherwise it will be discrimination. OMG what is this world coming to
