SMC == The death of FMUs

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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 03:15 PM
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Hey guys, I'm proud to present a sophisticated electronic device from ECG Performance Electronics that will enable Honda/Acura FI setups to ditch their FMUs with stock injectors in favor of larger injectors (i.e. 450cc) and the SMC.



The SMC is an acronym for Super Map Controller. The SMC features:


-Controls larger injectors up to 440cc to 450cc for FI setups with factory ECUs
-Real-time MAP voltage correction for unparalleled drivability under idle, daily driving, and boost
-Smoothens transition from vacuum to boost
-Active internal MAP clamping to prevent a check engine light*
-User programmability
-Fuel trim, up to -55%, on four rpm levels
-Precise idle fuel control
-Unlimited rpm range
-Ultra-fast 20MHz RISC processor
-Easy installation
-works from 1-13psi of boost (injector size dependent)
-Stealth. Small and compact design
-Works with other factory NA engines and factory boosted engines with a MAP sensor
-Affordability. Introductory HT price of under $100!!!

* MAP clamping can be removed for use on factory boosted engines. (i.e. WRX, VW 1.8T, etc...)





FAQ:

-The SMC doesn't need a FMU, missing link, or upgraded fuel pump*. It was created so that it simplifies FI installation. All you need for a 10-11psi setup as far as key hardware is the SMC and 440-450cc injectors. For example, here's a very affordable 10psi setup for a typical Honda/Acura owner:

1) SMC
2) 450cc DSM injectors
3) OBDI injector clips
4) resistors

All can be had for less than $250!




*It's recommended that the fuel pump should be upgraded if the maximum fuel pressure at max boost exceeds the pump's flow rating.

-The SMC is made so that it works off the factory MAP sensor so boosting isn't recommended above 11-12psi on factory NA Hondas/Acuras. However, factory boosted setups such as the WRX can fully utilize the SMC to the limit of the factory MAP threshold (20+ psi) if the owner chooses to place larger injectors to compensate for more boost.

-The SMC easily works with turbo and centrifugal SC type setups without any modification to existing engine hardware. For JRSC setups the MAP sensor must be relocated so that it can sense boost from the intake manifold. Easily done.

-The SMC comes complete with detailed installation and tuning instructions.




[Modified by zip, 4:35 PM 9/21/2002]
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 03:31 PM
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Cool.
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 03:33 PM
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Hmm interesting... can i wire in a GM 3 bar MAP sensor so I can boost higher with the SMC? Any real-world results?
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 04:11 PM
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sounds good. Can you use it with smaller injectors (310,370)?
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 04:20 PM
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sounds good. Can you use it with smaller injectors (310,370)?

-Controls larger injectors up to 440cc to 450cc for FI setups with factory ECUs
interesting....so who wants to be the guinea pig?
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 04:22 PM
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Very cool zip!
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 04:29 PM
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Cool. So this is basicaly like the AFC hack only cheaper?
It seems it can't be used at lower boost like 7psi? That's the way i read it anyway. Can you clarify this?

Travis
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 04:30 PM
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Thanks Art, are you the moderator of this forum? I'm wondering if you want to do a free SMC give away for one lucky member of the HT forced induction board.

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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 04:33 PM
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Thanks Art, are you the moderator of this forum? I'm wondering if you want to do a free SMC give away for one lucky member of the HT forced induction board.
zip, how about.... yes!
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 04:36 PM
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Not a yes, but a hell yes!!
Talk to me zip...

art
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 05:00 PM
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I am getting ready to switch over from my FMU to the 450cc/either custom circuit or SAFC setup. I would be willing to test it out and let everyone know how it works.

<--Is a shoe-in

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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 05:01 PM
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So who is going to the guinea pig? Is it going to be like a contest or someting?
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 05:02 PM
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yes my prayers have been answered
i want one!!!
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 05:09 PM
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Price sounds good but there is still not much control to fine tune fuel. Has less settings then even the old school afc. Thumbs up for the price though.
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 05:10 PM
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wow this looks good, i think i just may have to try this.

Rob
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 05:10 PM
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Default Re: SMC == The death of FMUs (N8-T)

Hmm interesting... can i wire in a GM 3 bar MAP sensor so I can boost higher with the SMC? Any real-world results?
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 05:41 PM
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I want in!

Hey, you should do a package deal with the SMC, 1:1 FPR, clips, with the option of resistors, rebuilt 450s (do core exchange or whatever).

-Dustin
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 05:46 PM
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so ,how do we get one of these brother??
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 05:58 PM
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very cool product! how much just for SMC
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 06:11 PM
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I want/need one PM me
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 06:17 PM
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3 bar map sensor???
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 06:28 PM
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I would love to get in on that! I live on the east coast of canada so getting esential parts of costly and timely. There is no dyno stand alone tuners here.

As a result I was looking for an AFC with 450's to run that hack with and get rid of my fmu and tiny injectors.

That price for your product is kick ***. I would like the chance to work it out and get one on my boosted D16Z6. Plus I know of several people in this area going FI on there honda's. Your product sounds good, I'd like to give it a good word (Check out our local import page that my self and a pal started www.nfimports.net .

The SMC, injectors and clips would be great.

How does this unit affect your timing? I know the afc hack advances it which is not such a good thing but do-able.
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 07:47 PM
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Default Re: SMC == The death of FMUs (Hybrid)

Right now I am running a basic circuit that does one trim (adjustable, but set at 40%) across the entire range of the MAP and allows me to run 450cc and up to 10 psi (I'm running 7psi and have spiked up to 9 without throwing a CEL or running lean, as far as I can tell).

I would be very interested in trying one of these out to see how it stacks up, since I have a little bit of a problem with the transition into boost, which I think is because I haven't twiddled the ***** enough. So, if you wanna throw one my way for cheap or FREE! I'd be glad to do a thorough review.
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 07:55 PM
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To comment on two posts...

This circuit will allow you to run 10psi if not a little more (and any boost setting lower than that) and is only limited by the MAP sensors output. Most people claim the stock one poops out at around 10-11psi, but that doesn't make sense to me because it's a 2bar sensor, thus ~14-15psi.

I think that if a GM 3bar is still a 5v sensor that you could run more boost (even without the SMC!!!) with larger injectors, but I'm uncertain of this. If it ouputs a higher voltage then this could possible allow you to run more boost than with the stock MAP, since the ecm won't see more than 5v and won't throw a CEL because of this.

The reason this (or my circuit even) is better than the old AFC or old SAFC (non vacuum flourescent display; ie. pretty one) is that those only allow a 30% trim of fuel and thus you cannot run 450's, maybe 370's and ~5psi of boost.
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 08:06 PM
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Zip's been testing this thing for a long time. I don't think you need to worry about him selling you something that doesn't work.

Did you install that header and test pipe yet, riceboy?

Sonny
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