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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 02:36 PM
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I took my head off to get my head gasket done and look what I found
for those who are using that brand of bov. And lucky me nothing happend to my head cuz that piece was to big to go into the head but it ****ed up all the inside of the runer of my intake all 4 runers were mangled I had to do some sanding in all the runers


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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 02:39 PM
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wow that's crazy i've never seen that happen before u were lucky
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 03:28 PM
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Throw that in the trash. And buy a tial. I would be pissed.
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 03:58 PM
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I did already
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 04:11 PM
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My fake copy of a tial 50mm did the same thing.
Mine was before the intercooler though. I just put it back together with some thread locker and it's been fine since then.
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 10:46 AM
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I have never seen or heard of that on ANY BOV before.

Did you call Turbosmart or try to get a replacement?
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 11:26 AM
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Screw getting a replacement.... Suck it up as a loss and go with a Tial.
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 01:37 PM
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I'm sorry, you didnt realize your BOV was malfunctioning before taking of the head?

That doesnt make a whole lot of sense to me but maybe I am missing something...
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 02:21 PM
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wow.

did u do a pull(s) with it sitting blocking the port like that?

is that cylinder fine?


turbosmart; do not want.
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 05:00 PM
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I'm sorry, you didnt realize your BOV was malfunctioning before taking of the head?

That doesnt make a whole lot of sense to me but maybe I am missing something...
It look like it happend the last time that I was at the track when my head gasket blew if u see the bov from the out side it looks normal And work normal once I took the head off I took the manifold of to get the head resurface I found that piece in runer # 3 in the head I believe that is why my car was over heating cuz the vacume leak
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 05:29 PM
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i had the same problem with the tial 50mm...i lost a motor for that reason....sucks
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Pumpking.
wow.

did u do a pull(s) with it sitting blocking the port like that?

is that cylinder fine?


turbosmart; do not want.
When I pull it off it was Like that it travel all 4 runer of the intake cuz it was all mangled I had to do some sanding and some polishing but lucky me the head it was fine it had some mark but it was no bad I did some polishing and I send the head to get check
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 05:02 AM
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It look like it happend the last time that I was at the track when my head gasket blew if u see the bov from the out side it looks normal And work normal once I took the head off I took the manifold of to get the head resurface I found that piece in runer # 3 in the head I believe that is why my car was over heating cuz the vacume leak
Unless your BOV is mounted on your Intake Manifold, there wouldnt have been any vacuum leak. Besides, on a boosted application, any leak in or around the IM generally seems to create a pretty noticeable misfire in my experience when gaskets are old, injectors have a leak near the bottom seal or a hose has blown off one of the ports on the IM. With the valve missing from the BOV as well, under boost you would have been WAY down on power, your turbo would have been working way too hard (over-spinning perhaps) and you should have been able to notice something a lot different than a headgasket blowing.

I can tell you a failure like this isnt a common occurrence and personally, I think its pretty irresponsible to just make a thread with a warning like this without any contact to the manufacturer, or a chance given to them without making it right.

With the conditions of this happening wouldnt you prefer to find out what the actual cause of this failure (and your other motor failures) actually is, rather than just bad mouthing a company to vent your apparent frustrations? I realize there are companies out there that just dont care and are trying to make a buck and the internet is here to allow us all the chance of free speech and free opinion, but unless the company told you to flick off when you contacted them about this, let's give companies a chance to make things right.
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 06:28 AM
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I would defiantly contact turbo smart on that. Just to se what they have to say. Besides their catalog says that their principals are "Quality, Reliability,performance and Customer service". So I'd mwanna see how good their customer service is.
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 06:50 AM
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The way the BOV is designed, it will still seal and function broken like that, so he wouldn't have known. The piece that broke off goes below the oring that seals, it's just a tapered piece to increase flow on the valve.
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 08:04 AM
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The way the BOV is designed, it will still seal and function broken like that, so he wouldn't have known. The piece that broke off goes below the oring that seals, it's just a tapered piece to increase flow on the valve.
Thank u tony1 that is what I'm trying to explain. u can't not see if it's broken
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 08:07 AM
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Call Turbosmart. They will take care of you.
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by xenocron
Unless your BOV is mounted on your Intake Manifold, there wouldnt have been any vacuum leak. Besides, on a boosted application, any leak in or around the IM generally seems to create a pretty noticeable misfire in my experience when gaskets are old, injectors have a leak near the bottom seal or a hose has blown off one of the ports on the IM. With the valve missing from the BOV as well, under boost you would have been WAY down on power, your turbo would have been working way too hard (over-spinning perhaps) and you should have been able to notice something a lot different than a headgasket blowing.

I can tell you a failure like this isnt a common occurrence and personally, I think its pretty irresponsible to just make a thread with a warning like this without any contact to the manufacturer, or a chance given to them without making it right.

With the conditions of this happening wouldnt you prefer to find out what the actual cause of this failure (and your other motor failures) actually is, rather than just bad mouthing a company to vent your apparent frustrations? I realize there are companies out there that just dont care and are trying to make a buck and the internet is here to allow us all the chance of free speech and free opinion, but unless the company told you to flick off when you contacted them about this, let's give companies a chance to make things right.
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by zakura R
I took my head off to get my head gasket done and look what I found
for those who are using that brand of bov. And lucky me nothing happend to my head cuz that piece was to big to go into the head but it ****ed up all the inside of the runer of my intake all 4 runers were mangled I had to do some sanding in all the runers

Hmmmm all 4 of your runners? how does a peice that big under boost and vaccum make its way through one runner and find its way to the other long 3 runners???? also its my understanding that brass is softer than aluminum so how could it do that much damage floating around. That big of a peice and you didnt hear it as well as notice that one of your cyliners was not firing properly due to being blocked of air flow..........seems fishy man??? any way sorry to hear you missfortune and hopefully you get it all sorted out and get back to racing.
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 01:32 PM
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Hmmmm all 4 of your runners? how does a peice that big under boost and vaccum make its way through one runner and find its way to the other long 3 runners???? also its my understanding that brass is softer than aluminum so how could it do that much damage floating around. That big of a peice and you didnt hear it as well as notice that one of your cyliners was not firing properly due to being blocked of air flow..........seems fishy man??? any way sorry to hear you missfortune and hopefully you get it all sorted out and get back to racing.
It makes its way between runners from whats called Intake Reversion. Do a goggle search there is a lot of info on that. Second that part of the blow off valve is not brass its anodized aluminum which will dig into the head an intake manifold since its just bouncing around in there at high speeds when air is moving threw there. That piece was not big enough to block off airflow at low engine speeds thus it was not found previous and it does not effect sealing at all .
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 02:17 PM
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Tial.
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 02:36 PM
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check the for sale section im sure someone has a tial for sale
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BlownHatch
check the for sale section im sure someone has a tial for sale

I allready got one from miller like 3 weeks ago
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 02:48 PM
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And guys turbo smart it got in touch with me allready they want the broken bov for them to check why it came a parts and they said that they will remplace the broken bov for a new one . I didn't want to give them a hard time about their product just want you guys to know if u are using this bov to check ur just to make sure that don't happend to you guys what it happend to me . I will ship that tomorow I will keep u post what happend one they get that bov
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 04:16 PM
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TIAL > TURBO DUMB

The industry standard Tial why bother with anything else??
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