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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 04:38 PM
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How To Remove The Rotor Screws From Your Honda/Acura’s Brake Rotors



I hate these screws. Most European cars don’t even have them, but for some reason the Japanese feel the need to equip their cars with them. The reason they are there is to hold the rotor securely to the hub of the car once the wheel is removed. If you look at how the whole assembly of hub/studs, rotor, wheel, and lug nuts fits together, you will see that these screws serve no purpose once the wheel is installed. The screws exist merely as an unnecessary assembly aide.

Their function is so superficial, in fact, that they are made out of what must be the softest metallic substance on the entire car. Under any load from the brakes, I can imagine these screws’ heads popping off instantly. Alas, they are on the car holding the rotor in place and must be removed in order to change rotors (another insufficiently designed component of the Honda/Acura braking system, but that is another blog topic...) The process of removing these screws appears to be as simple as grabbing a phillips head screwdriver and giving them a twist.

Unfortunately, life creates it’s own interesting moments when it is realized that even a very minimal amount of unseen corrosion or galvanic action LOCKS these bad boys in place, causing the screws to strip with ease. Once these guys are stripped, you need to grab a drill and bore out the heads to get them off. I have done this drilling more often than I have had the miraculous joy of actually removing the screws properly. I never want to do it again.

Let’s say, I were to stop writing here. One might no doubt search their favorite message forum and read all of the wonders of a tool called an impact driver. This tool is a sort of screw-driver with a spring-loaded twisting action that works when the handle is hit with a hammer. The idea is, the hammer forces the driver into the screw while the spring action twists the screw just enough to break it free. Much of the time, and impact driver is the perfect tool for the job. But I content this method is no sure-fire way to unscrew these screwy screws without possible need for the drill.

Problem one with the driver is, not everyone has one, and not everyone who changes brakes every 2-3 years wants to buy one. In order to get one that works reliably, you’ll need to spend enough money that you might well have paid someone to do your brakes for you. I’ve used cheap ones, and broken them almost instantly. Bonus…before they broke, they stripped the screws.

Problem two, even with a good driver there exists an estimated 10% chance you’s strip a screw anyway because the screws are just that bitchy.

So here is my SURE FIRE, WORKED EVERY TIME I DID IT WITHOUT FAIL way of removing the rotor screws from your brake rotors. It involves two simple tools nearly everyone has in their tool box.


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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 06:28 PM
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nice write-up
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 06:43 PM
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 09:43 PM
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Imagine what it's like for us north easters! Needless to say I drilled mine out a long time ago and will never want to do it again. Nice write up btw, I wish I had it way back when.
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Old Jun 17, 2010 | 11:37 PM
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nice write-up
Disagree. The write-up was nice, but the method was idiotic. An impact driver is only a $20 tool if you buy a Craftsman, and less then half of that if you get an generic one.

Taking a big chisel and a hammer to get it off is not a procedure I would recommend to anyone. I would actually be embarrassed for even suggesting this method.
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Old Jun 18, 2010 | 12:01 AM
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all you need to do is drill em out with a drill bit, takes 10 sec per screw.
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Old Jun 18, 2010 | 06:49 AM
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The method, unconventional as it is, is not idiotic. I personally think buying $20 tool to remove screws that really should not exist and will be thrown away is idiotic.

You must have a pretty big ego.
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Old Jun 18, 2010 | 05:34 PM
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The method, unconventional as it is, is not idiotic. I personally think buying $20 tool to remove screws that really should not exist and will be thrown away is idiotic.

You must have a pretty big ego.
So taking a sharp tool like a chisel and pounding on it with a hammer is your solution? Have you considered how dangerous that could be if the chisel would slip?


The bill you get from the emergency room will cost way more than the $20 bucks you saved because you were too cheap to buy an impact driver.

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Old Jun 19, 2010 | 11:38 AM
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So taking a sharp tool like a chisel and pounding on it with a hammer is your solution? Have you considered how dangerous that could be if the chisel would slip?


The bill you get from the emergency room will cost way more than the $20 bucks you saved because you were too cheap to buy an impact driver.
I have an impact driver, and it works every time for me.

With that said, there is no reason to blast him for choosing an alternative method for removing those screws. I have had several friends who did various things to get the screws out, and as long as it works, who am I to judge?

He gave an alternative method that seems to work. It is up to the reader to use caution while attempting this method. If they don't, no one is to blame for their failure except themselves.
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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 03:51 PM
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I thought those screws were only there to hold the rotor to the hub while the car is on the assembly line. I've always drilled them out.

I have an impact driver with my air tool set. Next time I come across this problem, I'll give it a try.
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Old Jun 21, 2010 | 03:27 AM
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I thought those screws were only there to hold the rotor to the hub while the car is on the assembly line. I've always drilled them out.

I have an impact driver with my air tool set. Next time I come across this problem, I'll give it a try.
The impact driver we are referring to in this post is a manual, not pneumatic.

This is the one I have:
http://toolmonger.com/2009/01/30/cra...impact-driver/
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Old Jun 21, 2010 | 10:22 AM
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Impact screwdriver image below, they are cheaper at Home Depot too. I have used a pneumatic cut off wheel and a flat blade screwdriver in the past before I bought the right tool.

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Old Jun 21, 2010 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by bsmith100
So taking a sharp tool like a chisel and pounding on it with a hammer is your solution? Have you considered how dangerous that could be if the chisel would slip?


The bill you get from the emergency room will cost way more than the $20 bucks you saved because you were too cheap to buy an impact driver.
I can't see this as being any more dangerous than accidentally smashing my hand with a hammer trying to hit an impact driver. You might be overestimating the amount of force is needed using my method.


I promise, the driver does work most of the time and for everyone here who has used it and it works, great! I am just sayin, they don't work all the time.

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Old Jun 21, 2010 | 12:39 PM
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This idea of getting cheap tools really bothers me.

I had a cheap impact driver, and it broke on me. I got some cheap craftsman drill bits and I have had a number of them shatter on me doing very mild work. All this work is dangerous and getting cheap tools only makes it more-so.
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Old Jun 21, 2010 | 07:03 PM
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Just as soon as I talk about the impact driver working for me every time, it fails to do the job today.

I tried to remove the rotor screws on the passenger side of a civic today and who knew, they decided to remain in place and try to strip out.

I was too busy to deal with it today, but I guess I will be using your method.

Funny how this worked out.
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Old Jun 21, 2010 | 07:43 PM
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I just take the biggest screwdriver bit I have, put it on my drill, and run it in reverse. Worked everytime so far. Just gotta press hard and it spins it loose in 2 secs
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 05:21 AM
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I just take the biggest screwdriver bit I have, put it on my drill, and run it in reverse. Worked everytime so far. Just gotta press hard and it spins it loose in 2 secs
I am going to have to say that this does not work. You must have run in to several cars that had already had these screws removed and reinstalled or something. A drill (unless it is a very powerful impact type drill) does not have the power needed to break these things loose.

A regular drill would not touch the screws I ran in to yesterday, nor would it have removed any that I have used the impact driver for in the past.
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 10:05 AM
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The reason why they are so hard to remove, is not the "soft metals" in the screw head, it's because the threads have rusted to the hub.

Just take your screw driver or 3/8" attachment phillips to use with a cordless impact, wack the screw, and remove. Comes out everytime. The simple tap you give, breaks up the rust and make removal a breeeze.

I always re install these screws on customers cars...keep it factory! If it was a track car that saw a lot of rotor changes, yeah, I will discard them.
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 11:34 AM
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Just remember, Honda went from these darn screws to "Trapped Rotors" that have to be pressed apart, so bitch all you want.
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 11:41 AM
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The key is not to tighen the **** out of them when putting them back on. Snug is good enough.
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 11:51 AM
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I don't even put them back, there's no use for them at all
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 01:56 PM
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I don't even put them back, there's no use for them at all
i agree completely.
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 06:12 PM
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I've used this and it works every time.
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 08:16 PM
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Although i have never had a problem with an impact screwdriver, nice write up!
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