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Old Jun 11, 2010 | 11:45 AM
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I would very much like to keep my '91 CRX with its GSR drivetrain for use yesr-round (I live in upstate NY). But it is really bad in snow or even rain. You have to be very careful starting off to avoid spinning a tire. And I always use top-of-the-line snow tires in winter. Would anyone know how much of an improvement I could expect from installing an LSD?

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Old Jun 12, 2010 | 12:16 AM
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When I drove my last B16 Del sol LSD in the snow it handled great. I took my new one out to the snow recently with no LSD and I couldn't get traction at all. Oh well. That problem will be solved next week.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 05:57 AM
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What's the cost of the LSD, R&R the tranny, & installing the LSD? Isn't that a very big investment?

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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 09:36 AM
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There are many many different routes you can take with LSD. Cheapest is buy a crap quality OBX and install it yourself. I just decided to buy a new ITR tranny.

Best just search and do your research before you get flamed.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 09:59 AM
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In your case, I would do a JDM B16 tranny swap, making sure its LSD equipped. You can find them on here pretty cheap. And gear ratio is very close to GSR, so not much difference there.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 10:28 AM
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for a decent lsd 600+ then install of 300-400
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 11:38 AM
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A type-r LSD will fit into a hydro B16 tranny with a GSR ring gear and very slight mods to the internal housing. It should be a drop in to the GSR tranny, LSD should help in the snow. I dont drive in the snow with my car, but going up a loose gravel driveway the difference was night and day between the LSD and non-LSD.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ilikehonda
for a decent lsd 600+ then install of 300-400
Originally Posted by shwanC
In your case, I would do a JDM B16 tranny swap, making sure its LSD equipped. You can find them on here pretty cheap. And gear ratio is very close to GSR, so not much difference there.
I picked up my Brand new ITR tranny for $1100 on ebay a few weeks ago from an Acura dealer in new york. So the price difference is very small between installing an lsd or buying a new transaxle. Also used JDM LSD trannys are about the same price 900-1200 depending on which.

So basically it's going to run you about 800-1200 for parts and labor on the transaxle itself. Don't forget about the cost to R&r the tranny.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 12:32 PM
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I ran a type-s h22 in the snow (EG coupe) with blizzaks and no LSD, and it performed quite well. But to compare, the previous winter I ran an h22a4 with an LSD and summer tires, and that was HORRIBLE.

So my honest opinion is the tires make the biggest difference. Just start in 2nd gear if you're having traction problems. OEM Honda (viscous) LSDs aren't going to lock unless you're really delivering some power to the wheels. At light throttle situations, you're pretty much running open diff...
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by rash
I ran a type-s h22 in the snow (EG coupe) with blizzaks and no LSD, and it performed quite well. But to compare, the previous winter I ran an h22a4 with an LSD and summer tires, and that was HORRIBLE.

So my honest opinion is the tires make the biggest difference. Just start in 2nd gear if you're having traction problems. OEM Honda (viscous) LSDs aren't going to lock unless you're really delivering some power to the wheels. At light throttle situations, you're pretty much running open diff...
I agree 100%. I just figured it's common sense not to drive with summer tires in the snow. lol
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 01:33 PM
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OEM Type-R diff is a Torsen, not viscous. Its very easy to install an LSD yourself. Its harder to get the transmission out of the car than it is to swap the diff.
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 05:12 AM
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i have to say LSD in snow=win. i had no problem with blad tires in the snow with my b16 in my eg coupe, with the lsd. never got stuck. (except that time i slid into a snow bank and had to fight to get out of it for like ten minutes, BUT I did get out.
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