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Old May 9, 2010 | 12:11 AM
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I took my B20VTEC DC2 out to Evadale Raceway here in SETX and got a few runs in. It's a full interior teg with AC and PS, runs on 93 octane and is one of my daily drivers. I knew it was pretty fast, but just wasn't sure what it would run. I was thinking mid/low 13's with the possibility of a high 12, but figured I would just go to the track and run the damned thing to see it can do. I have wanted a white teg like this for a long time, and I'm glad I can finally drive one around. It's not the cleanest in the world, but it's decent enough to have fun with. Here's a crappy cel phone pic of the teg along with my timeslips:






and for the hell of it, here is what it put down on the dyno. The 204WHP curve is the last tune on my stock 1.8 bottom motor in my CRX. The same exactly gearing and tires were used on both cars.



motor is 84.5X89 with RS machine pistons on LS rods/ARP rodbolts. It has a ported GSR head, ported by Huy from Inline Racing, some GSXR1000 ITB's custom made to fit the GSR head and one of those POS vteckidd fake RMF headers. I had to give the ITR header back to my friend for his car, so I had to use this header. It fits well and makes close to the power the ITR would make, but oh well. Running Blox C's and a B16 transmission. Slicks are 22x9 MH's (thanks John and MH for great service)

I think the teg has 12.6-12.7 in it once I get the launch down, maybe a lil quicker if I put the car on a small diet.
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Old May 9, 2010 | 03:28 AM
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Nice times!
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Old May 9, 2010 | 03:30 AM
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"Get the launch down" really. The 1.82-1.88 is really good.
Nice numbers and a good job.
I think your right the car has a small bit more in it.
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Old May 9, 2010 | 06:58 AM
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I'd be willing to bet ditching those ITB's for a normal manifold would make the car quicker as well.
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Old May 9, 2010 | 08:10 AM
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I'd be willing to bet ditching those ITB's for a normal manifold would make the car quicker as well.
you think? I just don't know man. I might pick up a few HP up top but will lose the fat power curve. The header is really choking me on this setup for sure. I need to make a nice header when I have time.
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Old May 9, 2010 | 08:22 AM
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"Get the launch down" really. The 1.82-1.88 is really good.
Nice numbers and a good job.
I think your right the car has a small bit more in it.
I'm used to getting 1.6-1.7 60's in mild all motor setups, the 1.8x's totally suck lol. I'm not used to launching such a heavy car with an all motor setup.
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Old May 9, 2010 | 08:41 AM
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Nice times man! Especially for a fully equipped teggy on pump gas!
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I'm used to getting 1.6-1.7 60's in mild all motor setups, the 1.8x's totally suck lol. I'm not used to launching such a heavy car with an all motor setup.
Ok. Now I can see why the 1.8 isn't so good. Was it a Pro tree or a Street tree?

As for your header, what about a Bisi or SMSP for your set-up with a 3" collector.
If your looking at IM's, take a look at the Victor X. If you have a few more dollars I want to see a NA run a Magnus IM.
I also thought ITB's have a nice peak but a bit narrow power band. Do you have the graph of the torque curve?
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Old May 9, 2010 | 09:13 AM
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Ok. Now I can see why the 1.8 isn't so good. Was it a Pro tree or a Street tree?

As for your header, what about a Bisi or SMSP for your set-up with a 3" collector.
If your looking at IM's, take a look at the Victor X. If you have a few more dollars I want to see a NA run a Magnus IM.
I also thought ITB's have a nice peak but a bit narrow power band. Do you have the graph of the torque curve?
it was a sportmans type tree, where each yellow flashes at once. the tree has nothing to do with the way the car runs down the track, though. I have a blox IM with a JG TB I may try on the car so I can get better gas mileage around town. The ITB's take a lot of fuel at partial throttle to be able to run like a normal car. Unless there is plenum manifold with a design that works very well with my specific setup, these ITB's will probably be IM that allows my car to run the quickest ET at the track.

I understand a lot of you guys are all about beaing able to claim a high peak power level, but I honestly could care less about what that number is. As long as I have a good tune and the car runs the number I want to run, I am happy. Btw, the dyno graph in the pic shows my B20V revving out to about 8000 rpm. No telling what it does up to 9500 lol.
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Old May 9, 2010 | 09:24 AM
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any vids?
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Originally Posted by mikesrex
it was a sportmans type tree, where each yellow flashes at once. the tree has nothing to do with the way the car runs down the track, though. I have a blox IM with a JG TB I may try on the car so I can get better gas mileage around town. The ITB's take a lot of fuel at partial throttle to be able to run like a normal car. Unless there is plenum manifold with a design that works very well with my specific setup, these ITB's will probably be IM that allows my car to run the quickest ET at the track.
I know the tree has nothing to do with your time, just going to give you some grief about the RT's.
Is the head a GSR or B16/ITR, I can't remember from your other post. I think you'll like the Victor X.

I agree with what you said about peak numbers and such. A good tune and a usable power is much more important than some peak number.
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Old May 9, 2010 | 09:40 AM
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nice setup, better you could lower the time if you remove a few little items like the backseats front seat and spare tire. there all easy things to take out and put back in. Thats deff one nice setup, have you tryed any different cams in the motor or just the blox C ? Is there a LSD in the b16 tranny? im assuming so
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Old May 9, 2010 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by OH_1fstgsr
I know the tree has nothing to do with your time, just going to give you some grief about the RT's.
Is the head a GSR or B16/ITR, I can't remember from your other post. I think you'll like the Victor X.

I agree with what you said about peak numbers and such. A good tune and a usable power is much more important than some peak number.
lol when I was racing one of my friends in his turbo coupe, I managed to get out of the hole about .8 sec ahead of him. I really don't care much about practicing cutting a good light on a sportsman tree. When i race at IFO it is always a pro tree.

Originally Posted by namewasdallas
nice setup, better you could lower the time if you remove a few little items like the backseats front seat and spare tire. there all easy things to take out and put back in. Thats deff one nice setup, have you tryed any different cams in the motor or just the blox C ? Is there a LSD in the b16 tranny? im assuming so
I wanted to run the car with full interior and everything, but I might put the car on a diet to see what it runs now that I met my goal of 12.xx in the teg on full weight.

the teg is not on an LSD. It runs a stock B16 diff that I welded up LOL. I'm also on solid metal motor mounts that I made.
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Old May 9, 2010 | 11:49 AM
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here is a shot of all my slips from yesterday side by side. The slips are in order of the runs I made. I broke an axle between the two 13.1 runs lol.

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Nice.. You improved after each run. No vids?
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Nice.

BTW, watch your cams. I had one break with only 2500 miles.
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Old May 9, 2010 | 01:41 PM
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Nice.

BTW, watch your cams. I had one break with only 2500 miles.
thanks for the heads up, I saw your thread. that's crazy! I wonder if there is anything I can do to check mine.
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Originally Posted by mikesrex
I'm used to getting 1.6-1.7 60's in mild all motor setups, the 1.8x's totally suck lol. I'm not used to launching such a heavy car with an all motor setup.
LOL, tell me about it, Try doing that on street tires, I couldn't do anything, i'd idle out the hole and the car would just light them up..
Good times for a heavy car, i dropped alot of weight, with this new chassis, But i can tell you right now, thats a good daily driven setup.
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that is one quick daily driver, must be a blast to drive. great numbers by the way
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that is one quick daily driver, must be a blast to drive. great numbers by the way
I had fun in mine, i put my motor in a eg hatch and swapped cams.
made good power, I was on street tires when i ran with 2.5-2.8' 60's
Trapping 110 in a full interior integra still had more in it.. but i swapped chassis.
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I had fun in mine, i put my motor in a eg hatch and swapped cams.
made good power, I was on street tires when i ran with 2.5-2.8' 60's
Trapping 110 in a full interior integra still had more in it.. but i swapped chassis.
is that eg your new daily driver? i remember seeing your integra, it was pretty clean bro. hope you didnt get rid of it
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is that eg your new daily driver? i remember seeing your integra, it was pretty clean bro. hope you didnt get rid of it
Ya, sadly i got rid of it, for alot of reasons.. but mostly because i didn't wanna do another build or go turbo.. in love with all motor too much.

I got a VX EG, the lightest eg made, which is roughly 2100lbs with the motor.. compared to 2780 with me in the integra..

Ya, i liked it, it was a good car..and ya its my new daily.
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Originally Posted by ALL M0T0R
I had fun in mine, i put my motor in a eg hatch and swapped cams.
made good power, I was on street tires when i ran with 2.5-2.8' 60's
Trapping 110 in a full interior integra still had more in it.. but i swapped chassis.
2.5-2.8 what kind of all season tires are these.
I was able to get 2.4's on the original michelin tires on my GSR way back in the day.
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Originally Posted by ALL M0T0R
Ya, sadly i got rid of it, for alot of reasons.. but mostly because i didn't wanna do another build or go turbo.. in love with all motor too much.

I got a VX EG, the lightest eg made, which is roughly 2100lbs with the motor.. compared to 2780 with me in the integra..

Ya, i liked it, it was a good car..and ya its my new daily.
wow are tegs really that heavy? I'm about 260 lb myself, I wonder what my car's weight is with driver lol.

I'm temped to just throw a stock swap in the teg for daily driving and put the B20VTEC in my rex. I think it's capable of busting out some 11 sec passes now hehe.
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I thought that was the original plan. Pretty surprised that's not how it turned out.
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