ok so im going to check out this ek with a type r in it supposedly and well i wanted to know how can i make sure that it is a real type r and not a gsr??? or type r block with gsr head or vice versa???

 

Simple.. look at the intake manifold, the pr3 stamping on the head, the type R headers, and the LSD transmission axle hole which you should be able to see through

also look at alot of ebay pictures so you get familiar with the block and compare it to a gsr

 

alright hopefully its real

 

if you have a picture of it post it here.. we can identify it for you

 

this is the only one i got at the moment

 

^^^ hrmm.. try to get more close up pictures and post them up when you can.. For all we know it could be a gsr bottom block with a b16 head. Its definitely not a gsr head. And I would wonder why he replaced the type R header for DC headers instead..

Also note that jdm type R blocks are harder to identify. It could be a jdm gsr block since both are stamped b18c. The usdm blocks are easier. B18c5= usdm type R b18c1= usdm GSR

Looks like a usdm head therefore the block should also be a usdm block if he claims its stock. So the type r stamp should be b18c5. Or maybe its a jdm head with a usdm valve cover? However the transmission may be jdm. Theres no vin tag on it unless he removed it which could be stolen. I would be suspicious and ask him more questions

 

alright will do

 

why cant it be a gsr head? first gen skunk2 manifold look exactly the same as the itr manifold.

 

also very true.. OP check the stamping on the head.. it should say pr3-4

also on the transmission: J4D (96specR w/ LSD)N3E (98specR w/LSD)

 

do the jdm type r blocks have a number that starts like 2 and gsr's have the ones that start on 1 dont they?

 

Im not sure but heres a pic of my old jdm gsr motor with the stamp. Looks like it starts with a 1

 

it could be a b16 head on a jdm b18c gsr bottom end

 

yeah was thinking that too. Both b16 and type r heads have the same stamp but different internals like valve train, cams etc and mild hand port and polish.. this is why I dont trust people who claim they have a type r block but change everything on it. Unless the bottom block is usdm and says b18c5

 

well he says the block and head are jdm and tranny is usdm???

 

then ask him why he has a usdm valve cover? on the block is it stamped b18c? or b18c1, b18c5.

If the tranny is usdm then ask him why the vin plates are gone.. It should also say s80 on the tranny. Best way to insure it is a type tranny is if it has lsd. Check the axle hole to see if you can see through it. If theres something in between then its not lsd. Then from that point hes probably lying

http://technet.ff-squad.com/how-to/lsdcheck/

 

whats the difference between usdm valve covers and jdm ones?

 

Upper radiator hose tells the story. Up front on a GSR, in the back on a type R/b16


b18c1 (gsr)

 

^^^ interesting...I learn something new everyday. So the first pic is a gsr motor right? Heres my jdm gsr to confirm this

 

Yes the first motor is a GSR, second is a type R. I meant to type that it was an ITR motor, but i forgot.

 

if you can, make sure it has the Type-r cams too lol. ok heres on way to identify a Type-R head. there should be GREEN PAINT near the distributor on the top. (lots of people don't know this)

and i can tell you right now, that is NOT A TYPE-R valve cover!!
also, see if u he can prove to you that the car has an LSD. and i believe someone said it above, but look at the stamp on the intake manifold too.

*if you can get him to yank the valve cover off, check for dual valve springs on the intake and exhaust side.

if any of these things are missing, TELL HIM WHATSUP and offer less money! good luck dude

 

It's apparently a type r head. Look at the radiator hose placement. Now we need a determining factor if it's Jdm block since it will only be stamped b18. Any reference pics of the tranny w/ LSD seethrough?

 

It's true they come like that, crappy thing is that paint comes off after time. I took the head off my type r to have cleaned and hot tanked, no more green paint

Other ways to tell...........

- should have a P73 intake manifold
- head should be stamped PR3, but could still be a B16 head
- production date would have to be at least 1996
- LSD tranny
- P73 ecu
- stamped B18C if jdm, B18C5 if usdm
- valve cover has "H" emblem on valve cover, usdm does not

 

USDM ITR valve covers say DOHC in large letters, VTEC in small letters and don't have an H on them. Like this:



JDM ITR valve covers say VTEC in large letters, DOHC in small letters and have an H under the spark plugs. Like this:

 

^^^ He knows his sheitt!!!

 

yep, you can tell by the lettering as said above ^^