Ok i am planning on making a spoon motor purchase and wanted people's opinions on there motors and are they worth the money?

 

whats your goal with the setup?

 

To have a fast car i could take to the track and on the street once in a while. I would like to have a setup that i could scrap up all the locals around where i live.lol

 

then a spoon motor is a POS

 

If you are looking for the most reliable and most developed engines and or company out there it doesnt not get better then Spoon or Mugen if you got the money easy $8k not even including the trans. If you just want to play with your friends you could make more hp with a turbo set up or K swap for probably cheaper. Do you research and watch youtube just the fact that you are asking this question make me think Spoon would be and over kill for what you need just play around do some rearch hit up your local tunner shops and track to see what people are running. GL

 

Spoon engines are not built to be fast, they are barely faster than stock. They are built to be realiable. The ones that bought these engines are race teams that did endurance races and wanted an off the shelf ready to race engine that would last.

 

Unless you're planning on doing a lot of racing, it's probably not worth it.

 

dont waste your money on those things, a properly built GSR(for example) with some boost has the potential to do everything you want. i saw a boosted b18 in a EG at redline time attack that was running 2:12 laps hitting 150mph on the main straight, there was a brand new ZO6 there that was running 2:10 laps so 2:12 is VERY respectable.

 

Well spoon engines a great performance engines... they have a higher range of power at high rpms compared to stock engines...but it depends on what you do...for racing it's a very nice engine but for a daily driver or street it's not really worth the money...unless you have lots of it to spend

 

my brother in law bought a spoon motor in 1997. first in the US. it blew after like 2,000 miles. they may build them different or better now, but he had alot of issues with his way overpriced motor. don;t get me wrong, i loooove spoon, but i would build my own motor/pay a trusted local shop

 

Tell you the truth, a spoon motor is garbage compared to what you can do with the same money spent on a lsvtec/b20vtec, GSR, ITR, and my personal favorite the h22 motor. You will be much faster with any of the above mentioned setups and just as reliable (depending on your engine builder) than going with a over priced 1.6L/1.8L spoon motor. my .02...

 

agreed x8

 

Spoon sounds not as famous as j's racing in engine tuning in nowadays. Both of their engines are aiming for the goal to compete in Asia n group racing. Because internal modifying is restricted, therfore people want to get a well balanced engine. It is just a well balanced stock engine, but we call them racing engine too, cause it allows you rev up to 10000rpm. But I gurantee it won't last more than 1 Or 2 sessions.

 

Ps: external modification like intake and header are restricted in Asia n group too.

 

Some people are in passion in turbo and supecharged engines. I, personally love na enginrs as they may help the handling for a ff car. In Asia, we use toda vtec killer cams which cancel your vtec and allows you to rev over 10000 rpm. But so far I haven't sen anyone using or running this thing in California.

 

By canceling out the vtec how does that make the motor rev over 10k?

 

that means you will be using the higher cam lobe profile all the time...
VTEC is only for fuel economy only

 

What makes people think "vtec" helps rev high rpm!? That's glad vanny is here to point out the truth.

 

wrong, vtec is designed to basicaly give you 2 different engines(2 stage) depending on what the situation calls for, the first(low lift) is for fuel economy like u said, AND improved low end torque for better city driving characteristics. and the second(high lift) being for performance. a vtec engine would be a horrible pig down low if the high lift lobes were always engaged because of the velocity vs volume equation.

 

i also fail to see how only having high lift lobes makes the engine able to rev higher.............can anyone explain this?

 

Please don't make statements like that when you have no idea what you are talking about.

VTEC provides the advantage of a broader power band by effectively giving you the range of two different cam profiles (one for low-end power and one for higher-end power). In and of itself, it has nothing to do with gas milage. You could get the same or better gas milage using a single cam profile and optimizing the motor for use in that narrow range.

To the OP - Spoon motors are a waste of money unless you plan to use it in the same circomstances it was developed for, which is circuit racing with class rules that prevent significant modifications. Even then, most of the better U.S. builders could put together a motor at least as good or better for the same money. A Spoon motor only makes sense if you want the bling factor to impress JDM fanboys.

 

Reduced valvetrain mass.

Rule of thumb: If someone is dumb enough to ask about Spoon engines, they don't have the money to purchase a Spoon engine.

 

just buy it and let us know how it is!

 

A truer statement has never been spoken!

 

2200 miles or 2 sessions for a spoon engine? the spoon engine? a engine thats exactly the same as an already extremely reliable ITR engine, only even better?

I question some of the replys here as Iam sure it would take alot more then 2 sessions even on the longest track to break down a spoon engine or more then 2200 miles too.

I have tracked a poor little b16a2 for probably 50 times now in the past 7 years with crazy highway,weekend racing to add to that in a heavy *** ek4 vti and I still have an amazingly healthy engine.

I cant speak about reliability too much as I never actually owned such a engine,however I have driven an eg with a spoon b18cr,spoon ecu and cams and can easily say it aint even close to stock performance,stock vs spoon = Just forget it if you ask me!

this thing drove just as fast as a k20r eg and revved like it wasnt a petrol car but rather electric,what Iam trying to say was it was extremely silky smooth and again I question both the replys here regarding its performance and reliability.