Moderators, please close this thread. My roomate stole my username/password and created this thread. I had no intentions of this, and do not care for drag radial racing.

I apologize to all of those that may have been offended by anything posted in this thread.

 

Why have a weight and electonics limit? It's not "run what ya brung" if you just added two rules to your new class. It's just another crappy skinny tire class, lol. Get rid of your rules and keep the tires. See who comes to play then.

 

205-50-15 is wack! at least a 225-50-15!

 

Why a 205-50-15 max? Why not a 225-50-15, or even stretch it to a 235-60-15 max like power street used to? It really has nothing to do with driver's skill once you start making some power... My car at 2400lbs w/driver and 550ish whp would roast the 225-50-15 BFG's until 5th gear (150+mph)... The only way this would be competitive would be with a bunch of 300-400whp cars...

 

I have a local "Streetcar Shootout Series" where the only real rules are must be a door car, pass NHRA tech and run a d.o.t. tire. We had alot of fun in the "tuner" class and hold two track records for FWD e.t and trap.

We managed 10's with a 205/60-13 M&H, 2010 lb car and 480 whp.

We race a bunch of DSM's, a few Hondas, SRT-4's and the odd 2.3 liter mustang. It's a good class and alot of fun.

 

205 is definetely bunk. 225 at least!

 

\\\cant make an oem size tire work on a turbo car????


yes i can see that happening.... that would be a stock shc on a greddy kit class..... basically the lass that would have spectators running for burgers and beer!!!! BORING AS FUUUUU!

 

You can't be serious a 205 tire and a weight limit

 

Uncountable is a bold statement my friend especially in a "run what you brung" class.

 

No i could care less about running a class where you have an excuse to be slow. I have 3 different sets of slicks and a set of skinnies that i use regularly. I would never plan on running dr's again since i have moved to slicks. I still have 2 sets of dr's also, but like i said, i would rather run fast than have an excuse for being slower. So i was far from whining... Maybe you should step up to slicks instead of whining for a class for dr's! just my .02.

 

A 225 class could be pretty cool and affordable. Would have alot to do with car setup etc, and prob be a good stepping stone for people.

 

I have to agree 205's would be extremely stupid..... Now 26x10.5 or so and now your talking something not so rediculous

 

Ill never run a radial tire again. 235/60/15 M&H all day for a street tire. Personally I love street tire classes and Ive said it a million times that anyone over 400whp will need a 235/60 tire if they have a B16/ITR tranny to run the classes unless they have a 10,000rpm redline.

 

1st off, it's never a good idea to try and cater to the guys that really can't afford to be racing heads-up. Doesn't work on several levels.
If you wanna make the broke dicks happy, don't make them add weight to their turbo'd CRX. It doesn't take money to make the car lighter. Make the minimum weight = the weight of a gutted CRX, or no minimum at all.
You're also kidding yourself if you think you can invent a heads-up racing class that is also affordable. It's never happened in the history of drag racing.
The only cheap drag racing is brackets. Doesn't matter if its an outlaw spare donut class, it'll get expensive if it's around long enough.
There's nothing to stop a well funded shop from building a high-powered car and killing the class. The tires size makes no difference.

 

Do it on Blizzaks and then you'll really have something!

 

NativeSon, I do not know you, but it is obvious you have a history in drag racing. This dude that posted up this thread does not. I am also a firm believer that any class you have racing wise, all it takes is a well funded shop to ruin the fun for all that are not as financially sound.

Also, another nail you hit right on the head is heads up racing is never cheap. Thats what seperates the men from the boys in drag racing just my opinion. Its cool to go out occasionally and run some passes maybe even a race or two when you are a "broke dick"....try and go rounds heads up with someone that has more money and a nicer setup than you. You will learn quick that heads up racing is not cheap.

 

I agree. when NDRA had events and I ran power street I went trying to win, but also knew the odds were against me because I was broke and goin to race for fun and maybe turn a few heads if I went rounds.

 

i think there should b a class "outlaw skinnies"were everyone switches the wheels from front to back. in all reality,like stated above no matter the rules,there will b a certain few who would pull away from everybody. it wouldn't matter if it was a outlaw square wheel class.thats just how it go's....

 

Outlaw 10.5 uses 10.5' slicks, you must be refering to Outlaw Drag Radial. A budget turbo street class has been discussed countless times. Restrictions like drag radials, turbo limits, weight limits, only pump gas, etc. It just never came to be from a lack of interest from racers.

 

You know that Drag Radials cost almost as much if not more than slicks. So this isnt necessarily a class for broke guys. Its just another class to split the racers again.

 

Seriously, I appreciate the thought you put in thinking about this. But as far as making it a level playing field. It would never be level and you can't do it based on a tire.

A 400hp car can give it all its got and run a certain time. The 700hp car can give it the same power in the 1st couple gears as the 400hp car so that it will ACT and launch the same. But I guarantee you once that 700hp car gives it more boost on 3rd and 4th gear, it'll kill the 400hp car at the back half of the track. Tire size wont matter much at 3rd and 4th when its just picking up more boost as it goes through the gears. 700hp car will win hands down all the time if its done right. You can't say that both will be on a level playing field.

 

i would say atleast a 235 tire. or keep it to a drag radial...no slicks. you would see a lot of guys switching to that 275 tire too....


My 225s with 12psi in them and rolling into it in 4th gear is pointless enough haha

 

I like the idea since 205 makes it level for everyone.

with 235 you can go 150mph, so i would not go with that size tire.
the 225 or 205 is the best bet.

good luck getting people not to bitch about everything, since the only way anything gets done is if you already have $$$$ backing up your idea, or you know the right people.

If the class would be made people would run it, but it all comes down to the prize $$$$ at the end of the day.

Which is why people dump stupid amounts of into their OSFWD car for only a couple of races.

 

^^^ I bet someone could get near 150mph with a 225 if someone tried really hard, my old 205/50/15's dead hooked 550hp cold in 3rd gear with an LS Tranny right off the dyno.

 

205 class would be fun but not save any one money...

bracket racing is and will always be the cheapest way to drag race.