Axle compatibility: GSR and RS
I'm comparing a passenger axle from a 97 GSR manual vs 99 RS automatic.
Are they the same size?
Can the ABS ring be popped off the GSR axle and put on the RS axle?
Are they the same size?
Can the ABS ring be popped off the GSR axle and put on the RS axle?
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There has been some discussion about this before, and I don't think a conclusive answer has been reached, that I know of.
Auto parts stores do not distinguish between manual and automatic Integra axles. They DO distinguish between ABS and non-ABS, but the only difference there is the presence of the ABS sensor ring, and you can use ABS axles on a non-ABS vehicle.
And please don't bother with reman axles, but you (beanbag) know that because you've been around awhile.
You can get brand new axles from various parts stores for $70-$100 per side, which I would highly recommend.
Auto parts stores do not distinguish between manual and automatic Integra axles. They DO distinguish between ABS and non-ABS, but the only difference there is the presence of the ABS sensor ring, and you can use ABS axles on a non-ABS vehicle.
And please don't bother with reman axles, but you (beanbag) know that because you've been around awhile.
You can get brand new axles from various parts stores for $70-$100 per side, which I would highly recommend.
LOL patrick, i've personally went through a few remans; but i've also broken the new ones. like cardone axles. i think if a person were to do it right the first time around you would be time ahead going with a real oem equivalent axle like those from raxles.com
Thanks for the replies so far. I don't want to go into the area of new vs reman because my situation is as follows:
I have with me an outer CV boot rebuild kit from honda. The CV boot recently tore on my 97 GSR. I have with me a RS axle that also has a torn cv boot, but is otherwise in ok condition.
If the ABS ring can be swapped, that makes it easy for me because I can rebuild the RS axle at my leisure, and then swap it with my axle all in one go. If the abs ring can't be moved, then I have to take out my axle, have somebody drive me out to a shop to get the outer cv joint removed, and then I rebuild my own axle, but in the meantime my car doesn't work.
I have with me an outer CV boot rebuild kit from honda. The CV boot recently tore on my 97 GSR. I have with me a RS axle that also has a torn cv boot, but is otherwise in ok condition.
If the ABS ring can be swapped, that makes it easy for me because I can rebuild the RS axle at my leisure, and then swap it with my axle all in one go. If the abs ring can't be moved, then I have to take out my axle, have somebody drive me out to a shop to get the outer cv joint removed, and then I rebuild my own axle, but in the meantime my car doesn't work.
you may be in uncharted territory. i can't find a word about migrating the ABS ring online. i went downstairs and looked at my ABS axle that i bought via the auction i mentioned earlier. this is beyond me. i have never rebuilt an axle.
my question is how long have these boots been torn? it doesn't take long for the loss of grease and addition of dirt to ruin the CV joint.
my question is how long have these boots been torn? it doesn't take long for the loss of grease and addition of dirt to ruin the CV joint.
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If the boot is ripped, you need to thoroughly wash ALL grease from the inner workings of the joint and inspect all surfaces for wear. I've seen grease leak and/or spray out from an otherwise intact boot (around the clamp). That's one thing, and is a good candidate for a new boot replacement kit. But if the boot is torn and the insides have been exposed to the elements, no amount of new grease and boots will fix it. The joint has to be replaced.
It depends on the driving conditions, but on that RS axle, for example, the boot has been torn for a really long time, but the joint still seems to be good. There is no play in it.
My axles were definitely not as bad as yours. The grease was still greasy, and not gritty. In any case, I rebuilt my own axle and not the RS one. I took a few hits at the ABS ring, and decided that it wasn't going to come off easily.
Only problem now is that the inner CV boot is leaking grease out the end. I regreased and re-clamped it, but that didn't seem to help. It also leaked previously. I'm thinking it's because on the inner CV joint housing, there isn't a continuous groove all around where the boot clamps on, so grease can sneak by. I tried venting the boot at the small end with a small tube, so I'll see if that helps. If not, I think I will seal up the leaking end with RTV or something.
Only problem now is that the inner CV boot is leaking grease out the end. I regreased and re-clamped it, but that didn't seem to help. It also leaked previously. I'm thinking it's because on the inner CV joint housing, there isn't a continuous groove all around where the boot clamps on, so grease can sneak by. I tried venting the boot at the small end with a small tube, so I'll see if that helps. If not, I think I will seal up the leaking end with RTV or something.
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