All Motor / Naturally Aspirated No power adders

need pointers on a n/a build for track only

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 21, 2010 | 08:54 PM
  #1  
jdmnic91's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 95
Likes: 0
From: Mulvane, Ks
Default need pointers on a n/a build for track only

ok. a couple of friends and I are going to do a all motor honda build for the strip. need some pointers on what parts are good for great power for n/a since im used to building dd's. the goal for now is 300hp. we already have the car and suspension ready to go.

what block and head are best to use?

camshafts?

valvetrain?

pistons?

rods?

crank?

intake?

exhaust?

fuel components?

will hondata be a good start for tuning?

and anything else that would be best?

Last edited by jdmnic91; Apr 22, 2010 at 07:50 PM.
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2010 | 02:52 AM
  #2  
Derek128's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 479
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver ,BC , Canada
Default Re: need pointers on a n/a build for track only

i guess k24block w/ k20 head is one of the easiest way
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2010 | 03:12 AM
  #3  
hondamark35's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,238
Likes: 128
From: Mustard Belt
Default Re: need pointers on a n/a build for track only

what's your budget?

what chassis do you have?

what have you built in the past?

what have your friends built before?

where did the 300-350hp goal come from?
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2010 | 03:14 AM
  #4  
negusjuda's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 3,384
Likes: 0
From: wilkes-barre , pa
Default Re: need pointers on a n/a build for track only

Originally Posted by Derek128
i guess k24block w/ k20 head is one of the easiest way

i second that k is the way to 300 n/a whp cause ya wont get it in a b series
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2010 | 07:50 PM
  #5  
jdmnic91's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 95
Likes: 0
From: Mulvane, Ks
Default Re: need pointers on a n/a build for track only

remember this will be a track only crx.

thinkin 13 or 14:1 cr

i've built 5 b series n/a dd motors (ls, b16, 2 gsr's, and a poor mans type R)

money is no issue for us right now.
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2010 | 02:25 AM
  #6  
negusjuda's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 3,384
Likes: 0
From: wilkes-barre , pa
Default Re: need pointers on a n/a build for track only

k swap
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2010 | 04:58 AM
  #7  
hondamark35's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,238
Likes: 128
From: Mustard Belt
Default Re: need pointers on a n/a build for track only

Originally Posted by jdmnic91
remember this will be a track only crx.

thinkin 13 or 14:1 cr

i've built 5 b series n/a dd motors (ls, b16, 2 gsr's, and a poor mans type R)

money is no issue for us right now.
PirateMcFred makes a good point. although i will say it can be more rewarding to build a fast car than to buy one. Also, and it's nice to work on something you know well (i know, Hondas, Acuras and Toyotas- i probably wouldn't build a mustang because of the learning curve).

all that to say... it would be cool to see an all out V6 J-series set up for the strip... but the K20/24 would probably be the best fit for what you're asking.
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2010 | 03:44 PM
  #8  
redGSRguy's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 3,838
Likes: 1
From: San Jose, CA
Default Re: need pointers on a n/a build for track only

The OP did mention it was for the strip. My buddy has the k24/k20 setup runs 10.7 with about 290 hp. Skunk2 cams, DTR header, not too sure about the rest of it.

Originally Posted by PirateMcFred
If money's no object then try this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=270566872694

Why limit yourself to a FWD CRX 4-banger if you can buy a high performance car that's got no question of performance capabilities?

Lemme guess, you mean "track" in terms of an extended 2-lane patch of asphalt 33.5 meters long and straight as a road in Kansas? That's a shame. If that's they way you want to go then you need to get a big turbo and a RWD Ford Foxbody. I can have respect for someone keeping 1200+whp and a short wheelbase under control over 7 or 8 seconds, not so much 200whp.

To each their own though I suppose.
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2010 | 08:42 PM
  #9  
bauergold's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 963
Likes: 0
From: CA
Default Re: need pointers on a n/a build for track only

Originally Posted by jdmnic91
all motor honda build for the strip.

Originally Posted by PirateMcFred
If money's no object then try this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=270566872694

Why limit yourself to a FWD CRX 4-banger if you can buy a high performance car that's got no question of performance capabilities?

Lemme guess, you mean "track" in terms of an extended 2-lane patch of asphalt 33.5 meters long and straight as a road in Kansas? That's a shame. If that's they way you want to go then you need to get a big turbo and a RWD Ford Foxbody. I can have respect for someone keeping 1200+whp and a short wheelbase under control over 7 or 8 seconds, not so much 200whp.

To each their own though I suppose.
Guess you didn't read his post. He said he wants to build an all motor honda for the strip. That doesn't mean an ariel atom or a turbo foxbody.

I would go with a K24/K20 setup. Makes power very well.
Reply
Old Apr 24, 2010 | 06:48 PM
  #10  
boostedef8!'s Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 96
Likes: 0
From: PA
Default Re: need pointers on a n/a build for track only

K with bolt-ons and tuning can make that power but its gonna empty out your pockets.
Reply
Old Apr 26, 2010 | 10:11 AM
  #11  
jdmnic91's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 95
Likes: 0
From: Mulvane, Ks
Default Re: need pointers on a n/a build for track only

well right now a have:
skunk2 pro 3 cams and valve springs,
b16 head with port and polish and 5 angle valve job,
sleeved gsr block.
Reply
Old Apr 26, 2010 | 08:39 PM
  #12  
Smokalicious's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 154
Likes: 0
From: Wichita, USA
Default Re: need pointers on a n/a build for track only

do the research bro and u'll fined that u'll get the most power outta a K series you'll be maxed out at 300hp with a B series when 300hp on a K is mid way just my two cents btw the flatline boys have a k20 swap for sale haha
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
hoffdaddy
Engine Machining & Assembly
0
May 6, 2016 09:07 AM
hon2984
Forced Induction
2
Feb 28, 2015 05:46 PM
jawnewbe2
All Motor / Naturally Aspirated
9
Dec 26, 2013 02:19 PM
cigrafix2
All Motor / Naturally Aspirated
27
Apr 21, 2007 05:00 AM
b19coupe
All Motor / Naturally Aspirated
150
Sep 15, 2004 08:25 AM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:17 AM.