bad vibration under braking, but not the normal to me..

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 7, 2010 | 05:03 AM
  #1  
E-AT_me's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 3,987
Likes: 1
From: Centreville ,VA, USA
Default bad vibration under braking, but not the normal to me..

Stock 1991 Honda Civic Si

Ok. i have a vibration that i can't figure out. it's been slowly getting worse. when i hit the brakes, i get a bad, BAD vibration through both the steering wheel AND the brake pedal. i've already replaced my shoes/drums previously due to other reasons. tonight i jacked up the car and replaced the front pads and rotors. while i was at it, i decided to check the ball joints, tie rods, steering rack bushing, and the wheel bearings. all seem tight. the only thing that i noticed was that maybe the front radius bar bushings. i guess that's what you'd call them? anyways, i've thought of everything that it could be and that's all i've got. any more ideas??? thanks.

192,5xx on the odo and most of the factory items are untouched.

also, it happens with EVERY set of wheels i put on, so it's not a bent wheel, and i don't get a bad vibration while just driving, just braking. thanks!

btw, ordered poly radius arm bushings last night. $18 won't kill me if it's not the fix, but it will eliminate one possibility.
Reply
Old Apr 7, 2010 | 05:07 AM
  #2  
jonnyt1130's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 132
Likes: 0
Default Re: bad vibration under braking, but not the normal to me..

Uneven brake wear, and warped rotors is most likely your problem. Get some new pads ands rotors and you should be all set.
Reply
Old Apr 7, 2010 | 07:58 AM
  #3  
E-AT_me's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 3,987
Likes: 1
From: Centreville ,VA, USA
Default Re: bad vibration under braking, but not the normal to me..

Originally Posted by E-AT_me
tonight i jacked up the car and replaced the front pads and rotors.
did that einstein.
Reply
Old Apr 7, 2010 | 12:42 PM
  #4  
24TEN's Avatar
PHANTOM MENACE
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 6,042
Likes: 3
From: SYCUAN NINE, CA, USA
Default Re: bad vibration under braking, but not the normal to me..

On the old front pads, are they worn evenly? I've had a problem before where one caliper was only clamping on one end of the pad.
Reply
Old Apr 7, 2010 | 01:05 PM
  #5  
EF9panda's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 175
Likes: 0
From: cerritos, ca
Default Re: bad vibration under braking, but not the normal to me..

^what he said.
Reply
Old Apr 7, 2010 | 01:31 PM
  #6  
Tyson's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 18,961
Likes: 76
From: I am Tyson
Default Re: bad vibration under braking, but not the normal to me..

youve got play in your suspension and steering.

look up rack end bushing.
Reply
Old Apr 7, 2010 | 06:21 PM
  #7  
E-AT_me's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 3,987
Likes: 1
From: Centreville ,VA, USA
Default Re: bad vibration under braking, but not the normal to me..

i know what the rack end bushing is. i've already looked at that. i actually have all the parts for that in house for my 88 sedan because that is the problem with that car. there is no play on the rack end bushing on my 91 though.

pads that came off were a-ok for wear, but i replaced them anyways. calipers move/slide freely. everything greased properly.
Reply
Old Apr 7, 2010 | 06:40 PM
  #8  
stocker2shocker91's Avatar
I requested a short story for a title.
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,707
Likes: 0
From: hard parked at the sandbar
Default Re: bad vibration under braking, but not the normal to me..

kinda sounds like the same syptoms as your tires not bein torqued correctly
Reply
Old Apr 7, 2010 | 07:56 PM
  #9  
michael-crxsi's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 633
Likes: 0
From: TX
Default Re: bad vibration under braking, but not the normal to me..

Originally Posted by stocker2shocker91
kinda sounds like the same syptoms as your tires not bein torqued correctly
try torquing them down to 85 foot pounds and see if that helps
Reply
Old Apr 8, 2010 | 01:21 AM
  #10  
E-AT_me's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 3,987
Likes: 1
From: Centreville ,VA, USA
Default Re: bad vibration under braking, but not the normal to me..

i always torque my tires using my Snap on Torque wrench. did it just after i changed the rotors and pads.
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2010 | 10:22 AM
  #11  
Bumpysbro's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
From: Farmersville, CA
Default Re: bad vibration under braking, but not the normal to me..

u know i have the same exact problem with my 88 crx, rebuilt the steering rack, new tie rods inner and outer, new pads and rotors and calipers. still have a horrible shaking in the steering wheel and in the pedal. seems me and you are in the same boat lol you replace the upper and lower ball joints?
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2010 | 10:33 AM
  #12  
.Manny.'s Avatar
Touching My Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 4,792
Likes: 1
From: Downey, CA
Default Re: bad vibration under braking, but not the normal to me..

Deff take Tyson's advice and check out the rack end bushings and pop in those new radius arm bushings.
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2010 | 05:34 PM
  #13  
E-AT_me's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 3,987
Likes: 1
From: Centreville ,VA, USA
Default Re: bad vibration under braking, but not the normal to me..

haven't had a chance to play with mine recently. i'm going to measure my hubs and see if they are warped. the strangest thing is i feel the pedal kicking back like the rotors are warped, even at very very slow speeds. leads me to believe it is more in the brakes rather than the radius bushings or rack end bushing.. i'll let everyone know if i find a fix.
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2010 | 08:21 PM
  #14  
EF_LSVtec's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 4,281
Likes: 1
From: Hayward, CA 94541, USA
Default Re: bad vibration under braking, but not the normal to me..

CAn you try jacking up the car, run it and see if you can replicate the vibration? Of course, while someone checking... Also, do you have good brake pedal pressure? Wondering if there's a leak on your brake lines that may cause uneven braking...and maybe cause the brake pads and rotors to have uneven wear over time... Did it still vibrate right after you replaced your pads and rotors?
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2010 | 01:14 AM
  #15  
E-AT_me's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 3,987
Likes: 1
From: Centreville ,VA, USA
Default Re: bad vibration under braking, but not the normal to me..

yes, it did vibrate exactly the same amount after replacing pads and rotors. yeah, i was planning on jacking the car and using some assistance to see what i can see with the wheels off.
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2010 | 04:12 AM
  #16  
E-AT_me's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 3,987
Likes: 1
From: Centreville ,VA, USA
Default Re: bad vibration under braking, but not the normal to me..

found some knuckles with hubs/bearings for cheap. i will be able to look at everything when i swap them. i will update once complete. although, i will be doing the radius bushings first. one thing at a time till i find the problem.
Reply
Old May 25, 2010 | 02:30 PM
  #17  
Powhatan's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Default Re: bad vibration under braking, but not the normal to me..

Did you find a solution. I have the exact same problem and have done everything you have done except the radius bushings..

1990 Civic DX

New rotors
pads
inner/outer tie rod
rack bushing
new flexible brake lines..

tired of spending money on the old car..except it gets almost 40 mpg.

Thanks in advance..
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
SoCal EJ1
Suspension & Brakes
6
Dec 2, 2009 03:05 PM
95BoostedEJ1
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
18
Jan 1, 2009 07:52 AM
riceforlife
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
3
Nov 23, 2007 05:06 PM
JDMlyfestyle
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
11
Sep 26, 2005 09:12 PM
teewhy55
Honda CRX / EF Civic (1988 - 1991)
2
Dec 22, 2004 09:36 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:26 PM.