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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 05:39 PM
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well i just recieved my Crcuit hero ext., and this is going to be a big review with mixture of a DIY.



well sometime ago there was a thread i read on a forum asking where to find a Fastline shifter but in truthy they're really expensive like under $200 and it's 2 piece they don't make the one piece like bone have. then someone posted the circuit hero page.



http://www.circuithero.com



so after i sopke with Sal, i paid $45 shipped and Bam it came in the mail.







a close look, so you can see.







and here it is mocked up with my extra GS-R shifter.(don't asks about the shifter it's not for sale)







now here's my first problem there was no notch for a wrench to screw down and i didn't have 2 bolts to use to screw in so i went ghetto ricer with vise grips.







now here's the second problem i encounted: the internal thread did not go all the way in. so you can see the gap. i took a set of calipers and checked the depth of the bore hole. it was the same depth as the threadings of the shifter but it wasn't not threaded nor have a chamfer to sit mesh with the shifter. so i was going to tap it futher but when i took my tapper out i notice that it was going to be a pain in the *** and i could ruin it so now what.







here's my solution. black tape and a OEM dowel pin. i first flare the dowel pin a bit and i tapped it just enough to slip over the extension. then i wrapped a little of the thread with black taped about almost half way up the thread. why? so when i screw down the extension it pushes tape down it fills the gap between the shifter and the dowel pin, kind a gap filler washer.







now here it looks like with the shifter mounted. now you can see why i use the dowel pin as a brace in the weak joint. if the threads went down and the at the end of the entension it had a chamfer, to slip over the shifter i feel i don't think you would need a brace.







now here the end result. i could have painted the extension but i was lazy and i just wraped it with tape like i was wrapping a baseball bat. lol.







so in ending: i really like the idea and concept of the extension. think about it if the problem with the threads and chamfer was fixed, this is the best investment for a weekend autox'er, road courser, mountain curve chaser, etc. why? you can just screw it on before you hit the course and when you're done remove it. now if you have a exculsive course car then get the fastline shifter. so never the less with the small hick ups i still love it.



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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 06:27 PM
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i just made mine with a coupler nut and a 10 inch rod worked out good.
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 08:25 PM
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looks retarded
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 08:37 PM
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please dont tell me you payed more then $20 bucks for that...i can make one of those in 5 minutes at my work hahaha
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by projekt90ef
please dont tell me you payed more then $20 bucks for that...i can make one of those in 5 minutes at my work hahaha
Said he paid 45....shipped btw.
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 11:17 PM
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i coulda sworn i saw this same thing at lowes for like $5 lol.
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Originally Posted by remoer
this is the best investment for a weekend autox'er, road courser, mountain curve chaser, etc. why? you can just screw it on before you hit the course and when you're done remove it. now if you have a exculsive course car then get the fastline shifter. so never the less with the small hick ups i still love it.
nice write up and good job fixing a flawed problem... makes me think of how much r&d realy went into makin sure it will not ruin the synchros and what not...
Originally Posted by projekt90ef
please dont tell me you payed more then $20 bucks for that...i can make one of those in 5 minutes at my work hahaha
please dont tell me he is saving lap times at the track with a part not alot of people sell... and i guess its time for u to put out ur own brand..... when u do i will buy one for $21 shipped...
Originally Posted by Mog
looks retarded
yea cause looks r what he was going for.... lol
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 01:18 AM
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I've seen a lot of different mods over the years, but this one makes no sense to me....no thank you
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 03:39 AM
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I have to admit that when I first clicked on here I thought this was a DIY for the large complete shifter.



I think the extension is just a very cheap ripoff.
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by jdm36
i just made mine with a coupler nut and a 10 inch rod worked out good.
sounds like a good idea, so where the DIY?
Originally Posted by projekt90ef
please dont tell me you payed more then $20 bucks for that...i can make one of those in 5 minutes at my work hahaha
yeah i could have make one to at work, but the truth is we live in america and i'm lazy. so instead i'll pay someone else to do it for me.
Originally Posted by skipbudlong
Said he paid 45....shipped btw.
yeah i did. why trail and error you're not going to know if something is good or not if ppl keep listening to idiots.. point in case.. \/ \/ \/
Originally Posted by Mog
looks retarded
it's all about function over form. and if you had read you would know the only reason i consider it was convience. while having a Fastline shifter it's more permament thing while the CH you can put it on and off when needed it.
Originally Posted by D16SiHatch
i coulda sworn i saw this same thing at lowes for like $5 lol.
maybe but why would i look in Lowes for a shifter?
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nice write up and good job fixing a flawed problem... makes me think of how much r&d realy went into makin sure it will not ruin the synchros and what not...

please dont tell me he is saving lap times at the track with a part not alot of people sell... and i guess its time for u to put out ur own brand..... when u do i will buy one for $21 shipped...

yea cause looks r what he was going for.... lol
thanks, but i wonder if ppl asked the same thing when fastline release their shifter. i've always stated that the way you ruin anything in your transmission is if you shift like a mad tyte JDM idiot, y0. plus i rebuild my own transmission. i'm not trying to destroy any of my hybrid tranny.

i couldn't tell you if i'm going to save track time or not. either way i can unscrew it and be done with it.

yeah how did you know that i wanted my shifter to match my black Nikes with my european shoulder bag. *snap*snap* thats right girlfriend.

Originally Posted by Deetz
I've seen a lot of different mods over the years, but this one makes no sense to me....no thank you
so wearing a mullet you rock but hey we still deal with.
Originally Posted by beansandrice
I have to admit that when I first clicked on here I thought this was a DIY for the large complete shifter.



I think the extension is just a very cheap ripoff.
a taller shifter? the fastline not tall enough?

correct it does seems like a ripoff, but look at it in a different way.

i do want a Fastline shifter and they are really expensive. but if i buy one and then i hate i'm screwed, cause you know alot of acura and honda owner are broke *** ****. plus they always want to low ball you if you try to sell something. hey i know i'm a advid lowballer. lol.

so in my case it's about a lil R&D before i buy the real thing. either way it's a learning process.
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by remoer
now here's the second problem i encounted: the internal thread did not go all the way in. so you can see the gap. i took a set of calipers and checked the depth of the bore hole. it was the same depth as the threadings of the shifter but it wasn't not threaded nor have a chamfer to sit mesh with the shifter. so i was going to tap it futher but when i took my tapper out i notice that it was going to be a pain in the *** and i could ruin it so now what.
The issue with the thread is probably thread relief. The tip of a standard tap has 3~4 threads that are not usable - they are tapered for lead-in and then the real threads start.
So when you measured inside you probably got the 3~4 threads that aren't usable.
Not sure why they didn't tap the threads deeper or use a custom bottoming tap

$45 is not unreasonable. You are paying for the material, the labor, the electricity to run the machine that made it, depreciation to the shop equipment that made the part, the rent for the building that the shop is located in, the insurance for the building, etc.
Yeah it's a small part, but it's custom. I'm sure they don't make nor sell a lot of these.



Originally Posted by jayturboef
nice write up and good job fixing a flawed problem... makes me think of how much r&d realy went into makin sure it will not ruin the synchros and what not...
l
LOL!
Are you serious? R&D an extension to see if it ruins synchros?
You aren't replacing the stock shifter. You are just extending the length. Nothing to do with synchros here.
This isn't a revolutionary product by any means.




Originally Posted by Deetz
I've seen a lot of different mods over the years, but this one makes no sense to me....no thank you
So when you shift you have your hand closer to the steering wheel,
Makes total sense.
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 07:29 AM
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The issue with the thread is probably thread relief. The tip of a standard tap has 3~4 threads that are not usable - they are tapered for lead-in and then the real threads start.
So when you measured inside you probably got the 3~4 threads that aren't usable.
Not sure why they didn't tap the threads deeper or use a custom bottoming tap

$45 is not unreasonable. You are paying for the material, the labor, the electricity to run the machine that made it, depreciation to the shop equipment that made the part, the rent for the building that the shop is located in, the insurance for the building, etc.
Yeah it's a small part, but it's custom. I'm sure they don't make nor sell a lot of these.





LOL!
Are you serious? R&D an extension to see if it ruins synchros?
You aren't replacing the stock shifter. You are just extending the length. Nothing to do with synchros here.
This isn't a revolutionary product by any means.






So when you shift you have your hand closer to the steering wheel,
Makes total sense.
i was going to retap it but since i never done it and as you said the the first 2-3 thread i was scared i would ruin it and the money would be a lost. so i went with this option till figure something.


whew i'm glad you chimmed in on the syncho cause i truth i was scared that filling in my motor mounts, replacing every bushing on my car, installing a Jimfab traction bar and spending more money on my suspension then my car is worth will increase my synchro in being damage alot faster. lol.

sense?! who wants to make sense?!
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 09:13 AM
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holy *****... $45? for a rod? shipped?

you could have paypalled me $40 and I would sent ya the same damn thing.

For the record:
- threaded rod: $5
- coupler for threaded rod: $3
http://thekam.com/images/cars/civic/...110809_int.jpg

bam, same thing as above.
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 09:37 AM
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made one of these out of a coupler for like 10 bucks and stuck it on my skunk2 dual bend and it was very nice. i am 6'5'' and i sit as far back as the seat will go in my ef and everytime i shifted i would have to stretch to reach the shifter, so thats the use i got out of the extension. but there is another extender online that is acctually made for a body-lifted jeep that works on civics and cost like 15 bucks plus shipping, have the link on my computer but im not on my computer so...
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Remo,
Thanks for the write up. I was just notified of the threading problem on the female side. I will be send you a replacement unit asap. Thank you for your business.
Sincerely,
Gil Salazar

here are a couple links for some threads in regards to the extender
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/review-circuit-hero-shift-extender-2664672/
https://honda-tech.com/forums/road-racing-autocross-time-attack-19/circuit-hero-shifter-pros-cons-1809178/
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 11:11 AM
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lol i feel sorry for you. search honda shifter extention on ebay and there are different sizing all for under 10 shipped. ive had one in my car for 6 months now banging gears and had no problems yet.
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Originally Posted by GUILOTINE
Remo,
Thanks for the write up. I was just notified of the threading problem on the female side. I will be send you a replacement unit asap. Thank you for your business.
Sincerely,
Gil Salazar

here are a couple links for some threads in regards to the extender
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2664672
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1809178
gil i have done business with ur company and the parts i received were the best transmission bang for the buck i have used... everything was great and still u show everyone here that u care alot about customer satisfaction....any chance of u chiming in on the r&d on ur product here.... i dont expect u to say whether or not ur product causes any premature ware on the transmission or not but would like to hear from u on ur product... and please let me know if i was misinformed since i just put that info out there... thanks gil
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jayturboef
i dont expect u to say whether or not ur product causes any premature ware on the transmission or not but would like to hear from u on ur product... and please let me know if i was misinformed since i just put that info out there... thanks gil
Why would you think it would add more wear to the transmission?

To answer your question, technically, yes... it will. Realistically, it will be such a minute amount of difference that you won't even notice. You put more stress on the transmission by holding the shifter in gear or putting pressure on the shifter than an extended shifter would ever put.

Bottom line, if you want it, do it. your gearbox will hardly notice a difference.

But, if you buy a circuit hero piece, your wallet will feel much lighter, compared to the $10 you could spend at Home Depot. You gotta be completely nuts or void of tools and arms to spend $40+ on this product.
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Originally Posted by jayturboef
gil i have done business with ur company and the parts i received were the best transmission bang for the buck i have used... everything was great and still u show everyone here that u care alot about customer satisfaction....any chance of u chiming in on the r&d on ur product here.... i dont expect u to say whether or not ur product causes any premature ware on the transmission or not but would like to hear from u on ur product... and please let me know if i was misinformed since i just put that info out there... thanks gil
Jay,
Thank you for the kind words . We designed the shift lever extender back in 2003 before anyone had came up with the idea. We have not had any issues with premature wear on the transmission or shifting mechanisms. I have all the parts machined here locally in San Diego; The only down side to that is that our cost is a lot higher than if it were made over seas (China). We are currently looking at different suppliers to help bring the cost down, currently we sell them for $34.99. This year will be an exciting year for us as we have big plans to release new products.
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 12:52 PM
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I am not sure how I feel about this. Hmm, may need to drive something with it.
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by -NA-aLL-thE-wAy-
I am not sure how I feel about this. Hmm, may need to drive something with it.
Once you drive around for a little bit and get used to it it becomes a simple modification you'll really love. I alwys used it in conjunction with a Skunk2 or B&M shifter. Reason was that it places the **** at an optimal location, yet the throw is close to stock.
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Driven
holy *****... $45? for a rod? shipped?

you could have paypalled me $40 and I would sent ya the same damn thing.

For the record:
- threaded rod: $5
- coupler for threaded rod: $3
http://thekam.com/images/cars/civic/...110809_int.jpg

bam, same thing as above.
well for me it's not about money/price it's about quailty in truth. and his has been the best one i've found to date thats is not a eye sore.
Originally Posted by skidmarkroyalty
made one of these out of a coupler for like 10 bucks and stuck it on my skunk2 dual bend and it was very nice. i am 6'5'' and i sit as far back as the seat will go in my ef and everytime i shifted i would have to stretch to reach the shifter, so thats the use i got out of the extension. but there is another extender online that is acctually made for a body-lifted jeep that works on civics and cost like 15 bucks plus shipping, have the link on my computer but im not on my computer so...
yes i found that shifter but it's not exactly what i was looking for.
Originally Posted by GUILOTINE
Remo,
Thanks for the write up. I was just notified of the threading problem on the female side. I will be send you a replacement unit asap. Thank you for your business.
Sincerely,
Gil Salazar

here are a couple links for some threads in regards to the extender
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2664672
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1809178
here's the reason why i spend the $45. customer service. a man a puts a product out and there is an error he replaces it. unlike some forum sponsers that i've delt with that only want your money send you their product and when you have a problem they don't answer the phone. yes their products is good but their customer service is horrible. again thank you again Gil.

now if you can only machine me a TPS adapter that will fit my CBR1000RR so i can use a OEM honda TPS.
Originally Posted by jayturboef
gil i have done business with ur company and the parts i received were the best transmission bang for the buck i have used... everything was great and still u show everyone here that u care alot about customer satisfaction....any chance of u chiming in on the r&d on ur product here.... i dont expect u to say whether or not ur product causes any premature ware on the transmission or not but would like to hear from u on ur product... and please let me know if i was misinformed since i just put that info out there... thanks gil
hands down.
Originally Posted by Driven
Why would you think it would add more wear to the transmission?

To answer your question, technically, yes... it will. Realistically, it will be such a minute amount of difference that you won't even notice. You put more stress on the transmission by holding the shifter in gear or putting pressure on the shifter than an extended shifter would ever put.

Bottom line, if you want it, do it. your gearbox will hardly notice a difference.

But, if you buy a circuit hero piece, your wallet will feel much lighter, compared to the $10 you could spend at Home Depot. You gotta be completely nuts or void of tools and arms to spend $40+ on this product.
exactly.
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I am not sure how I feel about this. Hmm, may need to drive something with it.
i'm waiting to try it. i should have my whole motor in my hatch by sunday. damd 1/8" NPT bung is the only thing thats holding me back.

Originally Posted by GUILOTINE
Once you drive around for a little bit and get used to it it becomes a simple modification you'll really love. I alwys used it in conjunction with a Skunk2 or B&M shifter. Reason was that it places the **** at an optimal location, yet the throw is close to stock.
well i'll see how it feels with a GS-R shifter.
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by remoer
well for me it's not about money/price it's about quailty in truth. and his has been the best one i've found to date thats is not a eye sore.
which, you covered in black electrical tape, hahahaha

so, you've managed to eliminate the one subjective reason for it's purchase.


I do appreciate the company that makes it and how they treat their customers...
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 04:19 PM
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why appreciate a company that scams people? this whole thing is nothing but a scam. i could make this with a tap and dye in 10 minutes. maybe i should start some competition. hope you dont have this **** pantented. im takin over :D
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by projekt90ef
why appreciate a company that scams people? this whole thing is nothing but a scam. i could make this with a tap and dye in 10 minutes. maybe i should start some competition. hope you dont have this **** pantented. im takin over :D
Ill buy one from you. 10 bucks right?
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