***11:1 Pistons+LS Rods+Turbo***

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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 05:23 PM
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I wanted some opinions on this setup before I buy the pistons. I have a GSR Block with B16 head. A friend of mine has some CP 11:1 Pistons and LS rods. I am going to be using an LS crank to make the rods work. My question is will this setup work with 93 octane and Turbo?

My setup will be as follows:

Turbonetics .50 trim
Turbosmart Wastegate
PTE 780cc
Blox Intake Manifold
Ebay Cast Iron Manifold
Hondata S200B
3 Inch Downpipe
Big Intercooler
CC Stage 5 clutch

This car may be daily driven, And my goal is to make about 320 to 350.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 06:29 PM
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The fuel you're using is the biggest hurdle in this setup. There is no question that its possible to boost on higher compression, but a matching increase in octane is needed in order to quell detonation. With your goals, i dont think you'll have an issue with this however...your goals are reasonable. Just beware that you may be limited by the octane rating on your fuel...
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 06:39 PM
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I appreciate that Schister. So I wont be able to run the 93 octane? Or should I up the injector size and run race gas or E85?
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 06:42 PM
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I appreciate that Schister. So I wont be able to run the 93 octane? Or should I up the injector size and run race gas or E85?
meth kit and call it a day
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 06:51 PM
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I was thinking meth kit. But I read all the threads on it. from your experience what are the pros and cons? I want to have the car running by May so I am trying to make some decisions asap. Meth Kit? 93? E85? Or Race Gas?
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 07:32 PM
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Look to whats in your area for these things. It seems as though Meth and Race gas are your best bets, but honestly, I'll drop compression a little to be around 10.X or so.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 07:53 PM
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I was just reading a thread by .CUBISH. and he mentioned he daily's his turbo car with 11.8:1 cr at 380ish hp on 93oct with no mention of meth . So is that pushing the limits of 93oct ? Or does it all boil down to the tune as the determining factor ?

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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 10:45 PM
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I think you should be able to hit your goal on 93 octane, but that doesn't mean it will happen. You may have to either
A.) Lower your goal
B.) Find a different fuel that better suits your needs
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C.) Add a MeOH sprayer

CUBISH is a great example of good power from a high compression engine. He has another car now in the 600+whp range and the static compression is over 11:1. It certainly can be done.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 04:02 AM
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I Do have a couple of E85 stations around my area. And also a few stations that sell Race Gas. I am leaning more towards the race gas. But if MeOH is a better option then I will choose that. I will either be getting it tuned bY RLZ or either J.Davis
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 05:15 AM
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Run E85 A lot cheaper then buying race gas. Here is my buddies Junkyard motor running E85. http://www.streetfire.net/video/the-...125_687191.htm There is a Crx in the last race.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 05:23 AM
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Yes E85 will easily support your power goals , and is a third the price of race gas.

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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 08:38 AM
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^^That's why i use only E85. Its much cheaper than running race gas but you will use about 25% more of it than pump gas. Having said that, i filled this morning at $1.94 after my 5 cent off coupon

Even factoring an additional 30% more fuel, the equivalent gas price would be $2.60....you can't get 87 oct for that, let alone premium
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 02:17 PM
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So E85 it is. What are the requirements for E85? Larger fuel injectors 1000cc min? New fuel lines? What else if I am missing anything? And Will just the Walbro I have do the job?
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 06:23 PM
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i would drop comp. and also by ls rods do you mean stock ls rods?
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 07:46 PM
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Nah they are Eagle Rods. I think I might just do the E85 High compression setup. I read through .Cubishs' build and he has awesome results and Im not going to be running as High A Compression as him
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 09:05 PM
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h using q16 uel right
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Old Mar 27, 2010 | 03:08 AM
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hes running q16 on his 600whp tune , but when hes not at the track and daily driving his car he runs it on 93 octane at 380ish hp
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