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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 03:57 PM
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Thinking about doing this. Can anyone think of any problem I could possible encounter?
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 03:58 PM
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Let's start with the basics... do you have an H22?
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 04:04 PM
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The H22 has a "dry" manifold, The F22 has a "wet" manifold. Meaning coolant runs through the F22 manifold. The thermostat extension housings and water pump transfer tubes are totally different. It wont fit unless youre really really stubborn.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 04:10 PM
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The H22 has a "dry" manifold, The F22 has a "wet" manifold. Meaning coolant runs through the F22 manifold. The thermostat extension housings and water pump transfer tubes are totally different. It wont fit unless youre really really stubborn.
No H22 intake or exhaust manifold will fit any F22B anyway....
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 04:14 PM
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No, I do not have an H22. I have the F22. I was wanting to do an H22 or K20 swap into my car, but decided to try and build my stock motor. I have a very clean 2dr accord lx and I've already dropped it a couple inches, put on and aem cai and invidia exhaust, but I'm new to this whole engine thing. I want to do something different than the very popular h22 swap. Just looking for advice.

Thanks for the explination 92civlude

I was reading about this euro-r intake manifold and it said it will fit any h or f-series engine.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 04:22 PM
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Well, to save you the trouble, it won't fit.

Plus the Euro-R's cost comes close to an H22A longblock, but won't provide anywhere near the 60HP boost. Often times different isn't necessarily better.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 04:28 PM
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No H22 intake or exhaust manifold will fit any F22B anyway....
He got the idea that it wont fit! Just trying to scare him out of trying it.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by slvrCD7accord
No, Just looking for advice.

Thanks for the explination 92civlude

I was reading about this euro-r intake manifold and it said it will fit any h or f-series engine.
H22 accord swaps are cool! Theyre relatively inexpensive and easy to do. Your car ill be a beast will a regular JDM blacktop H22. You could wake it up with a header, cams, or even a skunk2 intake manifold.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 04:35 PM
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Thanks for the advice and I understand it won't fit. Not very many people care about F22's. I'd like to try to make mine a pretty strong n/a f22. Would you consider this to be a waste of money and recommend a swap. If it is a decent plan and ideas as to where to start?
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 04:39 PM
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I'd like to try to make mine a pretty strong n/a f22. Would you consider this to be a waste of money and recommend a swap. If it is a decent plan and ideas as to where to start?
A strong F22 would be turboed. Unless you have deep pockets. I bought my motor swap from hmotorsonline. I did an F23a1 swap into a 94 Accord. It ran better than I expected!
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by slvrCD7accord
Thanks for the advice and I understand it won't fit. Not very many people care about F22's. I'd like to try to make mine a pretty strong n/a f22. Would you consider this to be a waste of money and recommend a swap. If it is a decent plan and ideas as to where to start?
Best parts to get:

High comp pistons (~11:1)
Bisimoto Stg 2 Camshaft
Upgraded valvesprings
H23A1 intake manifold
Bisimoto header
3" exhaust
Tunable ECU (duh)

Parts alone will set you back more than an H22, and then you have to get it all built, installed and tuned. And it probably won't net you much more if any more power than a mildly modded H22.

On the other hand, if you went H you have two relatively easier ways to ~200WHP:

H22A + F22A crank + rods

or

JDM H23A DOHC VTEC + JDM H22A cams (stock H23A DOHC VTEC cams are not very aggressive)

A Skunk2 or Euro R manifold on either of those setups would net you some more HP too.

I have an F22A1 now, and while I love the F22, if my car's body wasn't so old I would just go with the H.

Originally Posted by 92civlude
A strong F22 would be turboed. Unless you have deep pockets. I bought my motor swap from hmotorsonline. I did an F23a1 swap into a 94 Accord. It ran better than I expected!
Yea the F23A1 is pretty strong. I've seen people get ~140WHP & 140WTQ with just bold ons. It just sucks cause it doesn't have a great head or intake manifold options compared to an F22Ax.
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Yea the F23A1 is pretty strong. I've seen people get ~140WHP & 140WTQ with just bold ons. It just sucks cause it doesn't have a great head or intake manifold options compared to an F22Ax.
K20 pistons drop right in the F23, Boosting compression
F22, and H23 intake manifolds fit the F23
Not sure about header availability
The F23 has roller rockers! I wonder if there is a performance boost with roller rockers. I am currently building an F23 block/H22 head frankenstien engine. TURBO
It would be fun to build an all out f23 NA and drop it in a 94 95 Accord coupe.
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 06:17 AM
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www.evoindusa.com
They make an adapter plate to allow fitment of any H22 intake manifold onto a f22 head.
They list the adapter plate @ around $200
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 10:20 AM
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Default Re: Accord Euro-R intake manifold on usdm accord lx

Originally Posted by dpine
www.evoindusa.com
They make an adapter plate to allow fitment of any H22 intake manifold onto a f22 head.
They list the adapter plate @ around $200
Thanks for the link. Possibilities are endless now!
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 11:06 AM
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Default Re: Accord Euro-R intake manifold on usdm accord lx

Does anybody know if the adapter works for the f22b1/2 head? Basically are the f22a and f22b intake manifolds interchangeable?
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 08:38 PM
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Default Re: Accord Euro-R intake manifold on usdm accord lx

Originally Posted by dpine
www.evoindusa.com
They make an adapter plate to allow fitment of any H22 intake manifold onto a f22 head.
They list the adapter plate @ around $200
I believe I was the first to do the Euro R manifold on a F22. It works well.



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