okay here is the problem,

first time, timing belt gets shreded a bit and skips a bunch of teeth,

so changed tensioner and timing belt,

drove for like 1-2days, same thing, timing belt gets shreded, but not as bad doesn't jump many teeth like 2-3,


so replaced the whole tensioner with a kit washers bolts and everything and slap on a new timing belt, as soon as the car starts, timing belt starts to get shred again,

btw im not the one doing this, its my mechanic who is also a friend , trying to fix my car,


UPDATE:

got the car back today, all seemed fined,, then i poped my hood wheni got home,, and what you know EDGES SHOW WEAR . we changed the whole tensioner and bolts and belts, timing belt, took off the top timing belt cover, It looks like its moving side to side.. i got no more moneys . somebody socal come down and take a look??

he said give him a few days to figure out, but i might as well help him and post. says the timing belt is rubbing on the tensioner and moving, resulting in skipped teeth and edges are worn.


ANY IDEAS??? PLEASE xD

 

mech said if he cant fix it hes gonna switch to a hydro tensioner?

 

h22 are known for having problems with the tensioner

 

bump

 

The manual tension is better than the hydro. Check your cam, crank, water pump gears. the whole area where the belt rolls on. Maybe you have a chirp somewhere...
Good luck

 

Maybe you have damaged the engine inside and kissed the valves, something got bent and it does not like to turn any more?

Regards,

Nino

 

Have him check and make sure the timing belt retainer washers are installed down on the crank. Maybe when it was assy. it might be missing one and the belt could walk off one way or the other.

 

thanks for the info.. any info is good =D, will tell my mech

 

lets say my mech did all those things that you guys posted.. any other variables?

 

I'd say that the tensioner is probably bad.

 

2 bad tensioners from kragen?

 

gay i just got my car back today.. drove back home,, and then notice the edges were starting to shred -_-.. OMG>> WTF, my mech did all those things, replaced the whole tenisoner and timing belt, took off the top part of the timing belt cover .. the timing belt looks like its kinda moving side to side a lil

 

same thing with my h2b idn wut the problem is ive been tryna figure it out my belt deff is floating back and forth and the tensioner is good the belts not skippin it runs and drives but my belt isbein chewed up and the belt it hangin off the cam gears about 1mm

 

Sounds like maybe one of the pulleys or gears the belt rides on is bent...
Im thinking the belt naturally wants to center itself as everything is rotating...Now when the bent component comes around and contacts the belt (because the bent part may not always be in contact at all times), it "pushes" the belt off...
Im not super familiar with H series, but do they also have the "guide washers" down on the crank to keep the belt centered?
Maybe try new cam gears and/or waterpump?
Good luck!

 

the washers on the crank in front and at the back of the tbelt gear on the crank are backwards!!

 

OMG THIS!!!!!

Take off covers and post pics of these washers. they are supposed to taper away from the belt.

 

there is only one washer on an h22 and it sounds like yours is backwards. Instead of a washer on the front side of the crank sprocket there is a balancer pulley. Together they keep the timing belt from walking on the crank sprocket. Make sure the inner washer (the one closest to the oil pump housing) has the concave side facing the crank sprocket.



this is a weak diagram but pretend this is the oil pump housing: |

this is the washer: )

make the washer sit like this on the oil pump housing (this is lame ahaha): |)


Pretty lame and I'm too lazy to draw this in MS Paint. hahaha

also, the Kragen timing tensioner, does it come with a clamp tool on it like the one on the right?



Did your buddy, mechanic, remove the clamp tool once he set the timing belt? If he didn't, that is probably why you keep skipping teeth and have so much slop...

Hope that helps...

 

That crank washer will also show a wear sign on one side of it and that is the tell tell how it goes on as well in relation with the timing gear.

I wouldn't trust any hydro tensioner other then honda... thought of aftermarket scares me wasn't aware there were any...
I havent seen any manual tensioners fail on the H/Fs
I have seen improper installs not the right parts and bolts not tight enough and backing out causing chaos

 

damn it already sold the car , right after doing the swap, and dropped all that money in I QQ!