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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 03:39 AM
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Default B20B vtec with B16 cams.

Is it worth it to run B16 cams in a full stock B20B block and full stock B16 head and what HP may that reach? Any comments?
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 10:05 AM
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what do u mean by is it worth it ? since ur not doing any work, just put the stock cams.. what difference does it make to u ? it seems like u dont care anyways..
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 01:52 PM
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What do you mean that I don't care. If I want to build a bone stock B20Vtec it's my decision. I just had these cams right now and wanted to know if it was a big difference to use stock B16 cams or gsr's. You can go with your stupid answers somewhere else dude.
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 03:16 PM
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Default Re: B20B vtec with B16 cams.

B16 cams are designed to work well with a 1.6L. GSR cams are designed to work well with a 1.8L. Which engine size is closest to yours?
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 06:11 PM
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Default Re: B20B vtec with B16 cams.

ITRs will work best but there not much room for adjustment.
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 06:24 PM
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Default Re: B20B vtec with B16 cams.

Your running a stock bottem end and a stock head so stock b16 cams is what you should stick with.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 05:41 PM
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Default Re: B20B vtec with B16 cams.

^^Why?
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 06:10 PM
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Default Re: B20B vtec with B16 cams.

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^^Why?
Why Not? His b16 head is still stock. Slapping stock parts together doesnt determine a built motor. It still falls under the stock category. I owned a stock b20 block with a stock gsr head and ran my stock gsr cams. End of story.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 06:19 PM
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Default Re: B20B vtec with B16 cams.

Just run itrs if your looking to make the most out of your setup. B16 cams are the cheapest choice of cams for your motor so obviously there not the best choice.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 06:34 PM
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Just run itrs if your looking to make the most out of your setup. B16 cams are the cheapest choice of cams for your motor so obviously there not the best choice.
You woud think so but ITRs are too much for his stock bottem b20 block. ITR cams make power till 8400-8500. Stock b20 blocks can only handle maybe 7500-7800rpm. So its pretty much pointless and like most people say you would need at least the ITR valvetrain to run ITR cams. Some get lucky but not everyone has the same luck.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 06:50 PM
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Default Re: B20B vtec with B16 cams.

If the OP and others would research, you would know that people run itrs with his similar all the time. ITRs also offer way better mid-range than b16s or Gsrs. I doubt the op even cares.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 09:16 PM
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Default Re: B20B vtec with B16 cams.

Originally Posted by gutted-dx
If the OP and others would research, you would know that people run itrs with his similar all the time. ITRs also offer way better mid-range than b16s or Gsrs. I doubt the op even cares.
I know, but again why waste money on cams when his build is a ticking bomb anyways right? LOL oh well
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 09:41 PM
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Default Re: B20B vtec with B16 cams.

any of the oem cams will work fine.. itr cams of course the better of the 3 mentioned. and itr cams do have good midrange..

i would atleast look for gsr cams as they are a bit better than b16a..

remember you need to modify your pistons to clear the vtec valves.. if youre not doing that then you should run b16a cams and leave them at 0,0 if not you are sure to bend valves..
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 09:43 PM
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Default Re: B20B vtec with B16 cams.

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I know, but again why waste money on cams when his build is a ticking bomb anyways right? LOL oh well
nothing wrong with a stock bottom b20vtec if its done properly and not over revved.. 8200 should be the rev limit..
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 09:59 PM
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Default Re: B20B vtec with B16 cams.

B20Z w/ GSR Head
ITR Camshafts
Skunk2 Pro Series Intake Manifold
AEM cai
DC 421
Stock exhaust/cat
Hondata S200

200whp/150 tq

A friend's very basic setup. I have the dyno sheet if anyone wants to see. (Note how he didn't even bother with cam gears because 0,0 is best if you don't replace those pistons)

But yeah I think the OP said he has GSR camshafts and was wondering if he should use the GSRs or the B16A camshafts, GSRs for sure.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 03:09 AM
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Default Re: B20B vtec with B16 cams.

run the type r cams your motor if in healthy condition should be good for 175-180 whp range very nice dd street car but if you have gsr cams on hand right now run those over the b16
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 08:47 AM
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Default Re: B20B vtec with B16 cams.

Originally Posted by Apprentice-X-
B20Z w/ GSR Head
ITR Camshafts
Skunk2 Pro Series Intake Manifold
AEM cai
DC 421
Stock exhaust/cat
Hondata S200

200whp/150 tq

A friend's very basic setup. I have the dyno sheet if anyone wants to see. (Note how he didn't even bother with cam gears because 0,0 is best if you don't replace those pistons)

But yeah I think the OP said he has GSR camshafts and was wondering if he should use the GSRs or the B16A camshafts, GSRs for sure.


I wanna see a graph! Sounds like my setup building right now, just different bolt-ons.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 08:48 AM
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Default Re: B20B vtec with B16 cams.

O and no need to notch the pistons! You if want more adjustablity with the gears you should but you dont have too.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 09:40 AM
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Default Re: B20B vtec with B16 cams.

Originally Posted by pr0honda
nothing wrong with a stock bottom b20vtec if its done properly and not over revved.. 8200 should be the rev limit..
8200RPM for stock b20 bottom is pushing it. Do some research about it. Its all over H-T.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 12:33 PM
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Default Re: B20B vtec with B16 cams.

Originally Posted by mouab18c1
8200RPM for stock b20 bottom is pushing it. Do some research about it. Its all over H-T.
You obviously don't know who the f*ck you're talking to. I KNOW who this cat is, and what shop works in to soak up knowledge. I'd put my entire savings acct up to say he knows better than you. I'd take his word over yours ANY day.

Pr0Honda was feeling generous. I'd listen to him.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 02:30 PM
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Default Re: B20B vtec with B16 cams.

Originally Posted by madcrx69
What do you mean that I don't care. If I want to build a bone stock B20Vtec it's my decision. I just had these cams right now and wanted to know if it was a big difference to use stock B16 cams or gsr's. You can go with your stupid answers somewhere else dude.
u never said u wanted to know the difference between b16 cams or gsr cams.. next time ask ur question more clearly ..
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 02:33 PM
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Default Re: B20B vtec with B16 cams.

Originally Posted by mouab18c1
I know, but again why waste money on cams when his build is a ticking bomb anyways right? LOL oh well
hahahahhah good answer thats what i meant when i said he doesn't care...
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 02:39 PM
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Default Re: B20B vtec with B16 cams.

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You obviously don't know who the f*ck you're talking to. I KNOW who this cat is, and what shop works in to soak up knowledge. I'd put my entire savings acct up to say he knows better than you. I'd take his word over yours ANY day.

Pr0Honda was feeling generous. I'd listen to him.
Okay tough boy. I guess your mom don't know that you're mister tough guy online either right? LOL I dont like cats so its doesnt matter if you know him or not or if he makes a living off of you. Apparently your post made no difference in this thread so it doesnt matter to me. LOL what a loser
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 02:42 PM
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Default Re: B20B vtec with B16 cams.

ticking time bomb? i've seen bone stock b20 vtec set ups just like the one he's building, daily driven and raced at track events, sometimes on the freeway once in awhile, and that motor has lasted for YEARS already and still running strong.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 02:46 PM
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Default Re: B20B vtec with B16 cams.

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ticking time bomb? i've seen bone stock b20 vtec set ups just like the one he's building, daily driven and raced at track events, sometimes on the freeway once in awhile, and that motor has lasted for YEARS already and still running strong.
I rest my case, not everyone has the same luck. I've seen what i've seen with these motors so oh well..its just my 2cents. If it doesnt help you or anyone else then just disregard it. This thread is falling off track so ill just wait and see what the OP does.
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