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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 09:54 AM
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Hey guys,

I have a B-series in my '96 Civic DX......all appropriate linkage and ish.....

when my car is in ANY gear the entire shifter floats all over the place.....so much to the point where you could mistake it for neutral....literally...when in gear, you can move the shifter left and right an EASY 3-4".....

now I just ordered new shifter bushings.....




but is this going to fix that problem? When i did the swap it didnt seem like those bushings were that bad at all....


any help is greatly appreciated....thanks guys


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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 10:05 AM
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The bushings may tighten things up a bit, but every 96-00 I've ever been in has had the same shifter 'problem' you are describing. I know in mine the shifter will jerk back and forth when I press and let off the gas.
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 10:09 AM
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Aside from fresh shifter bushings, if you tried using a bolt/nut in place of the rollpin, this can happen.
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 10:14 AM
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if you tried using a bolt/nut in place of the rollpin, this can happen.
Are you talking about the infamous "b!tch pin"??

if so, that was replaced/re-used.....
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 10:22 AM
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You need a new clutch my friend had the same thing happen to him in his 93' civic
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 10:23 AM
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Its not really a problem you are describing, its just how they are... The energy suspension bushings will make it better than stock though... They were definitely worth the money...
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by dustinH421
You need a new clutch my friend had the same thing happen to him in his 93' civic



you need to read up my friend...

its a problem in the linkage...the clutch has nothing to do with how loose the actual shift **** is.....

ive got a brand new clutch and flywheel.....and the problem was there before and after....KTHNXBYE


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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by dustinH421
You need a new clutch my friend had the same thing happen to him in his 93' civic
na dude, it's the hydrolux distributor mainframe linkage pin bolt. it's $3.57 from Honda.
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 11:19 AM
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definetly a linkage issue, same thing happened on my dc replaced the bushings and pin and it was fixed
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 11:29 AM
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check out the dust boot and the plastic brace inside of it that is over the ball towards the bottom of the shifter for tearing and wear. This can cause the shifter to be excessively loose.
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by trustdestruction
check out the dust boot and the plastic brace inside of it that is over the ball towards the bottom of the shifter for tearing and wear. This can cause the shifter to be excessively loose.
lol i had to read that 2 or 3x to visually understand what u were saying.....

ill be sure to check that out....

when i find the culprit ill be certain to post it as well.....
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 11:53 AM
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haha yea I didn't know how to word that any better, lol
Good luck finding the problem though
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Old Mar 16, 2010 | 03:19 PM
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Look under your car and see if the linkage is moving with the shifter. If so it's most likely the roll pin is loose. If the linkage doesn't move check your bushings and the plastic ring on the shifter.
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Old Mar 16, 2010 | 06:22 PM
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i have the same problem with mine right now and its the shift linkage and i had to buy another one because the bushing that was worn out you cant replace.
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Old Mar 16, 2010 | 07:22 PM
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if in first it feels like your in neutral right, shifter goes back and forth, the bushing,bearings in the shifter itself are bad comin problem, replace shifter
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Originally Posted by 99em1si
i have the same problem with mine right now and its the shift linkage and i had to buy another one because the bushing that was worn out you cant replace.
Originally Posted by redeg666
if in first it feels like your in neutral right, shifter goes back and forth, the bushing,bearings in the shifter itself are bad comin problem, replace shifter

Which are you guys talking about???



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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 06:58 AM
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has anyone used this shifter??? It looks similar to the Rouge Engineering kit ive seen for BMW's.....and that kits is SOLID....




Would i need to put a bushing in the bottom hole? or would it be a bolt and washer going through that point??

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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 07:39 AM
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that shifter looks heavy duty for a honda shifter but i cant lie i want it ha
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 09:02 AM
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my shift linkage was very loose at point #25.....

i added some washers and tightened it down, and it was much better.... i also replaced bushings shown at top of page which i think helped a tad....
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 09:42 AM
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I know mine is loose but not that loose. I know my budy that has cable shift linkage in his h22 is much more tighter why is that? cable vs rob shift linkage? even if you put bushings in it would still have a lil play? but when I was driving my buddy h22 the shifter was more comfortable than a rod shift linkage.
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 09:49 AM
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i had the same problem went under the car and the linkage bolts were loose might wanna give that a try
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 09:51 AM
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Default Re: VERY loose shifter when in gear?? WTF?

Originally Posted by DC2-ProdUcTiOnS
has anyone used this shifter??? It looks similar to the Rouge Engineering kit ive seen for BMW's.....and that kits is SOLID....




Would i need to put a bushing in the bottom hole? or would it be a bolt and washer going through that point??
would also love to know where you would get this bushing, and if it even works?
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by dustinH421
You need a new clutch my friend had the same thing happen to him in his 93' civic
really man...stupid.
just buy a set of bushings and tighting the bolt up a bit. that will fix your problem, had the same on my car
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 10:46 AM
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for that shifter it looks like a spherical bearing shifter. B&M has one i know for sure and im sure a few others do to. it should come with a pin and teflon bushings for the bottom part.

and if it is...they are yummy.
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 10:09 PM
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It's a spherical bearing. I actually just installed the B&M one in my del Sol, and it works great. Way less play from the shifter.

I found out that even with new parts 11 and 8, part 11 was moving around inside of part 9. With the B&M spherical bearing shifter, it replaces the stock parts 8, 9, and 11 with the spherical bearing and the bearing housing.

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