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Old Sep 8, 2002 | 09:32 AM
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i'm usually in the accord forum but i'm looking into getting rid of the slow f22 and getting into one of you guy's engines. then i ran into the h22 longblock, what's up with this engine? i haven't seen any specs on it but i assume its the same motor with, get this, a longer block! ok, so why does it cost only half as much as the everyday h22? and if any of you have a clue, is it still as easy of a fit into a 4th gen accord as the regular old h22? and why would they design the same motor in two different configurations? it doesn't seem a wise way to use company funds and engineers.
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Old Sep 8, 2002 | 09:42 AM
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it is an H22 engine... If I recall correctly, a longblock is the engine block and head while a shortblock is just the engine block with no head attached. I'm sure someone will correct me if I am backwards or off a bit, but it's something like that.
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Old Sep 8, 2002 | 09:49 AM
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hahaha, you guys are silly.haha
sorry
First of all its the exact same engine.
The difference between the long block and the short block is what comes with it. The short block is a full swap, engine, all sensors, trtansmission, shift linkage, Cvs, all the stuff you need for a swap. The long block varies, different places send you different stuff. Long block comes with no trans, no shift linkage, no Cvs,.

http://www.hondamotorsonline.com/sho...0Change%20Over

http://www.hondamotorsonline.com/sho...20Long%20Block

there ya go, dont go and by up all the long blocks, i need one!!!
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Old Sep 8, 2002 | 09:52 AM
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that's where i found the engine. only $1100 my jaw hit the floor! i saw no tranny but hell, the tranny is more expensive than the engine?!
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Old Sep 8, 2002 | 10:15 AM
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hahaha, you guys are silly.haha
sorry
First of all its the exact same engine.
The difference between the long block and the short block is what comes with it. The short block is a full swap, engine, all sensors, trtansmission, shift linkage, Cvs, all the stuff you need for a swap. The long block varies, different places send you different stuff. Long block comes with no trans, no shift linkage, no Cvs,.
lol you came on strong like you think you know everything but everything you said is totally wrong! a long block is the whole motor from oil pan to cylinder head. this doesn't include transmission, ecu or anything else, just the motor.

a short block is just the block. it's from oil pan to deck of block, no head, no transmission, no ecu, no wire harness, etc.
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Old Sep 8, 2002 | 10:25 AM
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Default Re: what is a longblock h22? (ISUBIEXI)

The short block is a full swap, engine, all sensors, trtansmission, shift linkage, Cvs, all the stuff you need for a swap.
no.
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Old Sep 8, 2002 | 10:31 AM
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Default Re: what is a longblock h22? (Salvatore Leone)

Like i said, different places, different stuff.
When looking for a Ford engine that is correct, the long block and shortr block are totally different. But with Jpn stuff im correct.
Look at the links.

I just bought a transmission less then 2 months ago. SO i dont need that, and everything connected to the trans is fine. I do need a computer also.


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Old Sep 8, 2002 | 10:34 AM
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i've tried contacting the site i was quoted from so i'm just waiting on a reply if i get one. they'll let me know i guess but i was just getting impatient. so that's where that huge price difference comes from, its the trans AND ecu that aren't included. i'll finally get around to doing this next summer so i've got time to continue researching. keep replying though, i NEED FEEDBACK!
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Old Sep 8, 2002 | 10:42 AM
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http://www.sohfast.com/prelude.htm

They sell used p13 ECU's for $475
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Old Sep 8, 2002 | 11:00 AM
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nice. sounds like it'd be cheaper to buy everything individually than all together

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Old Sep 8, 2002 | 12:57 PM
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Default Re: what is a longblock h22? (YodiBrodi)

nice. sounds like it'd be cheaper to buy everything individually than all
together
not always, if you dont get specific sensors then you can end up spending hundreds of dollars on these alone.
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Old Sep 8, 2002 | 05:23 PM
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Default Re: what is a longblock h22? (ISUBIEXI)

Like i said, different places, different stuff.
When looking for a Ford engine that is correct, the long block and shortr block are totally different. But with Jpn stuff im correct.
Look at the links.
u sir, are an idiot
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Old Sep 8, 2002 | 08:44 PM
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according to the site that's selling the motor, comes with all sensors so that shouldn't be too big of a deal. hondamotorsonline.com is the place
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Old Sep 8, 2002 | 09:59 PM
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yah well .. after doing 3-4 swaps sometimes sensors can be broken/missing. 99% of the guys selling motors just leave those on a 'friendly act' ... I think there are a couple people out there who might have warrant sensors/accessories... but thats far & few between.

Haha and oh my god I about fell out of my chair when I saw the description of a short block.
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Old Sep 9, 2002 | 08:15 AM
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if you want i have a compleat swap for sale, minus the axels, but including a wireing harness. i have a choice of heads the one in the post below and and one that is ready to go, nothing needed. take a look at the post and let me know, im selling it cheaper then any place will.

vsilvestri@msn.com
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Old Sep 9, 2002 | 09:29 AM
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Default Re: what is a longblock h22? (YodiBrodi)

OMG. Todd is going to love this thread..

ISUBIEXI.... SHHHHHH I dont think the terminology changes from engine maker to engine maker.. so you sir are a dumb ***... (get ready to have your title changed to exactly that).. and no where in your links did one say it was a short block.. it just said complete swap and long block.. the only difference appeared to be a sensor warranty and the ability for lsd and a hydro tranny with an extra $1300 on the price tag, which would be... a complete swap..

and just think about it logically for one second..
SHORT BLOCK (short, small, lacking, ect) would not be a complete engine ready to be started
LONG BLOCK (last time i checked, long was more than short)..


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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 11:09 AM
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Default Re: what is a longblock h22? (Salvatore Leone)

hahaha, you guys are silly.haha
sorry
First of all its the exact same engine.
The difference between the long block and the short block is what comes with it. The short block is a full swap, engine, all sensors, trtansmission, shift linkage, Cvs, all the stuff you need for a swap. The long block varies, different places send you different stuff. Long block comes with no trans, no shift linkage, no Cvs,.

lol you came on strong like you think you know everything but everything you said is totally wrong! a long block is the whole motor from oil pan to cylinder head. this doesn't include transmission, ecu or anything else, just the motor.

a short block is just the block. it's from oil pan to deck of block, no head, no transmission, no ecu, no wire harness, etc.
great call salvatore, i was going to say.. when i saw that he said, short block is a complete motor w/ everything i was bouts to pee ma pants
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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 12:03 PM
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great call salvatore, i was going to say.. when i saw that he said, short block is a complete motor w/ everything i was bouts to pee ma pants
lol
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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 01:23 PM
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Default Re: what is a longblock h22? (Salvatore Leone)

ill second that the short block is just the block the long block is more complete block and head no tranny
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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 03:19 PM
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Short Block - Block only, fully assembled
Long Block - Block and head, fully assembled
Complete Motor - Oil pan to valve cover, sometimes the IM
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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 07:32 PM
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hahahha... mannn this is a great thread... Oh yeah.. if you wanna see a LONG BLOCK he is a LONG BLOCK



hahaha.. now that **** is loooooong
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