NO!! Engine went pop.... :(
Well, last night i guess i throw a rod or somthing but my engine has gone to the big engine bay in the sky. Acura told me it was fine 2k miles ago too...
but according to some attorny's since it was out of warranty when they looked at it, theres not much i can do to have them help out with it.
So i guess we come to the question. Should i just try to find another 00-01US R motor or get like a 97-98 JDM R motor for it? and no, i dont want to go B20 or ls/gsr or anything like that, i want to stick with an R motor, just which one should i get and who has good prices and reliable service for shipping on the motor? <sigh> this sucks..any help would be appreciated guys...this is a dark day....
but according to some attorny's since it was out of warranty when they looked at it, theres not much i can do to have them help out with it. So i guess we come to the question. Should i just try to find another 00-01US R motor or get like a 97-98 JDM R motor for it? and no, i dont want to go B20 or ls/gsr or anything like that, i want to stick with an R motor, just which one should i get and who has good prices and reliable service for shipping on the motor? <sigh> this sucks..any help would be appreciated guys...this is a dark day....
If you want to keep the engine in your car a B18C5, get a quote from Acura to fix it. Compare that price to what a used ITR engine costs (generally 5,000-6,500).
In your case it may be wise to have Acura fix it. At least you know what has been done to your engine versus being completely in the dark when buying a used motor.
Fact is, Acura should warranty their work even if its for only 30 days, while a used engine will only come with a startup warranty.
In your case it may be wise to have Acura fix it. At least you know what has been done to your engine versus being completely in the dark when buying a used motor.
Fact is, Acura should warranty their work even if its for only 30 days, while a used engine will only come with a startup warranty.
How many miles on your ITR?
In Canada, the ITR powertrain is covered for 100,000 KM (62,500 miles) or 5 years, whichever comes first.
In Canada, the ITR powertrain is covered for 100,000 KM (62,500 miles) or 5 years, whichever comes first.
and no, i dont want to go B20 or ls/gsr or anything like that, i want to stick with an R motor,
You should just stick with the motor you got and fix it.
hmmmm.....well, im not too sure on my warranty for that kind of stuff then!!!! anyone know? also, if its just my block that blew and my head is ok, is a rebuild good, like just replacing the block? will anything be out of balance or "under par" compared to when it was stock? would it matter what kind of block i get? JDM? USDM? ive never blown a motor before
i dont know what to expect or the best way to go about it!!
i dont know what to expect or the best way to go about it!!
If you rebuild it properly, you can make a better motor than the factory.
First thing you have to do is figure out exactly whats wrong, and go from there.
JDM or USDM, same thing.
First thing you have to do is figure out exactly whats wrong, and go from there.
JDM or USDM, same thing.
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Well its been raining like crazy here, so we havent had a good chance to REALLY get a good look at it, but tommorrow we'll have access to a lift so ill let you know tommorrow night what the verdict is. So while i have access to the block....any suggestions to do to it before we install it? pistons maybe? or anything? what about a built block instead of a stock one?
as always your help, suggestions and support are always appreciated!
as always your help, suggestions and support are always appreciated!
Well its been raining like crazy here, so we havent had a good chance to REALLY get a good look at it, but tommorrow we'll have access to a lift so ill let you know tommorrow night what the verdict is. So while i have access to the block....any suggestions to do to it before we install it? pistons maybe? or anything? what about a built block instead of a stock one?
as always your help, suggestions and support are always appreciated!
as always your help, suggestions and support are always appreciated!
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We need to know what broke.
His motor broke, didn't you read the beginning of the thread?
His motor broke, didn't you read the beginning of the thread?
What went wrong exactly?
Come on - we all know what happend.
well first things first...
find out how it blew, meanig what part gave broke.
if you bent or broke a connecting rod then the broken or bent rod could've slapped up the side of your cylinder wall and depending on how hard it hit or by where it hit. you might not be able to reuse that block. so if the connecting rod bent a little and it only dammaghed the very bottom of the cylinder wall (which is lower then where the piston passes over) then you can reuse it. now you have 2 options here..
first option
you can keep this block (if its reusable) and buld up a mean *** motor. you can either start with the first thing by sleeving it. then stroking it out 89mm x 84mm (but thats just my personal opinion). then raise the compression a bit and you know the rest.. build it from the top up. you will still have your engine with its vin nukmber son it, so all the numbers match. you will have one hell of a mopnster motor. and since it is sleeved youwould be able to boost the living **** out of it or spray the living **** out of it. i am not suggesting you do that, but what am saying is that the bottom end would be as bullet-proof as it can ever get with that block...
option 2
you can buy a shortblock from acura. if your head is good then keep it. you will find that to just buy a stock shortblock will be cheaper than to pay someone to break down the blown one, replace the messed up parts and then rebuild it. now the pros to buying a shortblock is you will still have you blown block and you can sell off the parts that are still usable example crank, and maybe the block if it is salvageable. cons to buying a shortblock you will still have a stock motor (which some would count that as a pro, where as i would put it with the cons). the number on the motor wont match the car's numbers. it will be an already assembled shortblock, so you dont know if the parts are balanced (which they wouldnt be)
pros to building your block would be you get to keep the block that originally came with your car, meaning numbers will match. everything can be blueprinted and balanced. you have the chance to change out and modify the motor all at once without having to do anything in the future to it but change the oil and regualr maintenance. you can still sell your type r crank (if you decide to stroke it) . if you sleeve your motor you can hit it with anything as far as forced induction and it would take it. you will have a built motor..
cons to building your block first things first, if you are looking for the cheaper route bulding your motor would defenitly not be it. anything that is not stock and that is custom will take a while (ex. sending it out to someone who knows how to sleeve it, ordering custom pistons, finding a crank and so on) arranging the parts will be a good time consumer, then once you have them machinign and blueprinting and balancing (in other words you would ned a beater for the meantime). did i mention that building a motor will be way more costly than buying a shortblock. thats just about the only cons i can think of for now...
anyways i just want to give you some ideas of what you can do. it sucks to be in your position but you should defenitly sit down and think thoroughly what you want to do since any normal person would only like to spend the money once... (not even spend it once, but you know what i mean)
my opinion, i would say build the bitch....$$$$
find out how it blew, meanig what part gave broke.
if you bent or broke a connecting rod then the broken or bent rod could've slapped up the side of your cylinder wall and depending on how hard it hit or by where it hit. you might not be able to reuse that block. so if the connecting rod bent a little and it only dammaghed the very bottom of the cylinder wall (which is lower then where the piston passes over) then you can reuse it. now you have 2 options here..
first option
you can keep this block (if its reusable) and buld up a mean *** motor. you can either start with the first thing by sleeving it. then stroking it out 89mm x 84mm (but thats just my personal opinion). then raise the compression a bit and you know the rest.. build it from the top up. you will still have your engine with its vin nukmber son it, so all the numbers match. you will have one hell of a mopnster motor. and since it is sleeved youwould be able to boost the living **** out of it or spray the living **** out of it. i am not suggesting you do that, but what am saying is that the bottom end would be as bullet-proof as it can ever get with that block...
option 2
you can buy a shortblock from acura. if your head is good then keep it. you will find that to just buy a stock shortblock will be cheaper than to pay someone to break down the blown one, replace the messed up parts and then rebuild it. now the pros to buying a shortblock is you will still have you blown block and you can sell off the parts that are still usable example crank, and maybe the block if it is salvageable. cons to buying a shortblock you will still have a stock motor (which some would count that as a pro, where as i would put it with the cons). the number on the motor wont match the car's numbers. it will be an already assembled shortblock, so you dont know if the parts are balanced (which they wouldnt be)
pros to building your block would be you get to keep the block that originally came with your car, meaning numbers will match. everything can be blueprinted and balanced. you have the chance to change out and modify the motor all at once without having to do anything in the future to it but change the oil and regualr maintenance. you can still sell your type r crank (if you decide to stroke it) . if you sleeve your motor you can hit it with anything as far as forced induction and it would take it. you will have a built motor..
cons to building your block first things first, if you are looking for the cheaper route bulding your motor would defenitly not be it. anything that is not stock and that is custom will take a while (ex. sending it out to someone who knows how to sleeve it, ordering custom pistons, finding a crank and so on) arranging the parts will be a good time consumer, then once you have them machinign and blueprinting and balancing (in other words you would ned a beater for the meantime). did i mention that building a motor will be way more costly than buying a shortblock. thats just about the only cons i can think of for now...
anyways i just want to give you some ideas of what you can do. it sucks to be in your position but you should defenitly sit down and think thoroughly what you want to do since any normal person would only like to spend the money once... (not even spend it once, but you know what i mean)
my opinion, i would say build the bitch....$$$$
another thing not mentioned is bribery. maybe see if the mechanic at acura might be persuaded to accept a small ammount to put the work under warrenty. some dealerships might. buddy of mine got some major work done to his itr after a misshift bent valve incedent and it cost him about 70$ for parts(cost) and a whatever for the mechanic.



