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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 08:18 PM
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I been looking for another car and wanted something a little more practical than a V8 sport car, Lexus SC400. I figure if I wanted to go fast and even save gas at the same time I'll hop on my bike.

I been looking at this 09 white Civic Si for awhile and wanted to know if this was a good purchase or if I could try to get a better deal. After some talk to the owner he agreed to give it to me for $22,773.91 OTD. Note that the dealer is 3 hrs away from me, I'm from central California.

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Taffeta White
2,780 miles
Factory navigation
*small paint chip on rear passenger side bumper.
$22,773.91 OTD

Cars I've have also consider are E46 M3, G35/37, 350/70z, 8th Accord coupe, Camry SE, MS3. If I get a Honda, this will be my first. I owned a Acura Integra before.

This will be my DD and I don't plan on doing many mods to it. Maybe some BBS/Works rims, HID retro, coilover. I don't know if I would do an intake or exhaust system. I would like to keep the car as much stock as possible.

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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 08:28 PM
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I'd say, have them fix the bumper and knock a few grand off of the price. You can a brand new one the same price or cheaper.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 09:36 PM
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^x2. i got mine brand new for 20k otd
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 09:55 PM
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With or without navigation? I been looking at a lot of used 09 Si from the dealer and they are all about the same price, even the one without the factory navigation. Its even harder to find a taffeta white coupe.

Really? 20k for a new Si OTD? That would mean they sold the car for 18k, 4k under MSRP?
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 03:36 AM
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Before the '09 Model year, the coupe's MSRP was 21,080. That's what I paid OTD.

I don't think I-vtec dohc has navigation. Just remember the leverage you hold. They need your sale much worse than you want their car. It's still tough times for automakers. And although the civic is still practically selling itself, don't believe for a second that you still don't hold the leverage.
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 07:50 AM
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You have quite the range of cars you're looking at.

A 370Z/G37 or M3 in no way compares to a Civic SI
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 08:12 AM
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sounds like a pretty average price, nothing special. i'm sure you can find one for cheaper. i've heard of people buying si's for 19-20k otd on 8th civic w/o the navi.
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by TheMuffinMan
You have quite the range of cars you're looking at.

A 370Z/G37 or M3 in no way compares to a Civic SI
x(over 9,000)
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 01:09 PM
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i bought a brand new 2010 si sedan for 20700+ taxes title, so i jumped on that deal! so It might be better getting new, loan rates would also be lower for new cars instead on used.
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMuffinMan
You have quite the range of cars you're looking at.

A 370Z/G37 or M3 in no way compares to a Civic SI
Yes I like keep my options open and I am not comparing those cars. The Civic Si was on my list for low cost of ownership, good on gas, and practical for me.

I'm hoping I can get it for $21,000 OTD. I am not in a hurry since I have other options.
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by si_overtake
i bought a brand new 2010 si sedan for 20700+ taxes title, so i jumped on that deal! so It might be better getting new, loan rates would also be lower for new cars instead on used.
When you say $20,700 plus taxes and license does that mean on top of the $20,700 or is that OTD.

What state are you in?
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 05:58 PM
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When you say $20,700 plus taxes and license does that mean on top of the $20,700 or is that OTD.

What state are you in?

His location says Chicago, IL.

He means on top of the $20,700. OTD means that's the exact price you pay including all the extra charges/taxes/docs/etc.
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubble Gum Jr.
His location says Chicago, IL.

He means on top of the $20,700. OTD means that's the exact price you pay including all the extra charges/taxes/docs/etc.
I know what OTD means. I wanted to make sure since I was talking terms of OTD since that's what the value you would pay for the car. I'm not worried about how much the car was sold for since different cities have different taxes and some dealers would over charge you on the fees hence why you talk in terms of OTD. I am using my phone so I didn't get a chance to see his location.
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 07:24 PM
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With or without navigation? I been looking at a lot of used 09 Si from the dealer and they are all about the same price, even the one without the factory navigation. Its even harder to find a taffeta white coupe.

Really? 20k for a new Si OTD? That would mean they sold the car for 18k, 4k under MSRP?
no navi, with 100k mile warranty also. i had real hookups at the dealer
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 01:34 PM
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i love how dealers charge $ for docs shouldn't that be part of buying a car from them?
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 04:14 PM
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I got my 09 fa5 with factory navi brand new for 21000 plus taxes. Im in NJ but i still think u can get a better price.
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by XkjeldorX
I got my 09 fa5 with factory navi brand new for 21000 plus taxes. Im in NJ but i still think u can get a better price.
Do you remember what your OTD price was? Around $23k?
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 05:14 AM
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My original OTD price on my 09 w/Nav (brand new) was $22.5k (before GAP and extended service contract)
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Ross
My original OTD price on my 09 w/Nav (brand new) was $22.5k (before GAP and extended service contract)
I guess buying a Si in California you pay a premium. I might just settle for the sedan since I see a few 09+ white Si sedan for sale.
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 07:25 AM
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I just got lucky, the dealer closest to me had two 09 sedans, one w/nav and one w/out. They were both Redline Orange and the dealer really wanted them gone.

I think you'll like the sedan better, IMO. I bought my Si with the intent of keeping it for a looong time, so I wanted to make sure I wouldn't outgrow the car by getting a dog or having kids.

The Si coupe is kinda just another sporty coupe, but the sedan is a much more special car, balancing practicality and fun like a poor man's M5. And if you get it with NAV it's pretty luxurious and grown-up IMO.
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 01:17 PM
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lmfao...wow
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Old Mar 6, 2010 | 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 2008fijibluesi
I don't think I-vtec dohc has navigation.
What are you talking about?
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 12:24 AM
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I got mine for 20k+ OTD a month ago but the dealer is my cousin.
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