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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 05:52 PM
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got a 96 civic hatch and wanna add a turbo.. i know i need a y8 intake manifold and obviously a turbo kit. this is my daily driver and im not racing it just want some more go when some jerk cuts me off..... what do i need for like 8 psi for injectors and ecu... will upgrade motor down the road i just want a starting point
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 06:42 PM
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For 8psi you are going to need low compression pistons, 750cc injectors or bigger, hondata or some other expensive ecu, you'll need the head to be built with aftermarket springs/reatiners, a turbo cam, the block needs to be sleeved, you'll also need a 6-puck clutch and lightened flywheel. You're also going to need an LSD transmission or else you'll get massive amounts of torque steer that is going to kill you.
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 07:04 PM
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not looking for big hp right now.... so what would be a better route buddy you sound like your shooting for 4 to 5 hundred hp.... not a bad thing
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 07:08 PM
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Swap a D16Z6/Y8 head or swap in a whole D18Y8 to start with. Just a little kick for vtec.

DD with it then turbo it, I'd suggest the Z6 head if doing a mini-me swap. It flows better. Since you are going to have a long *** tranny already. Turbo is an +.

Just do some research in the F/I section and you'll be amazed
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ReddHarlem
For 8psi you are going to need low compression pistons, 750cc injectors or bigger, hondata or some other expensive ecu, you'll need the head to be built with aftermarket springs/reatiners, a turbo cam, the block needs to be sleeved, you'll also need a 6-puck clutch and lightened flywheel. You're also going to need an LSD transmission or else you'll get massive amounts of torque steer that is going to kill you.
okay yes, low compression pistons, 750 cc injectors are fine but 440s will do, crome chipped ecu is cheaper and works fine but hondata is better. crower makes CHEAPER and reputable cams, valve springs, and retainers. block doesnt need to be sleeved for 8psi of boost, a block guard will do. sleeving isnt a bad idea though if your going 12+ pounds in the future. you dont NEED a 6 puck clutch or lightened flywheel, trust me, on a single cam, 6 pucks are tranny killers, just an aftermarket stage 2 kit should be fine, such as ACT or Exedy. and an LSD tranny is not an absolute necessity for 8 psi, although if you have the extra cash, buy one why not
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 20-EM2-05
Swap a D16Z6/Y8 head or swap in a whole D18Y8 to start with. Just a little kick for vtec.

DD with it then turbo it, I'd suggest the Z6 head if doing a mini-me swap. It flows better. Since you are going to have a long *** tranny already. Turbo is an +.

Just do some research in the F/I section and you'll be amazed
btw great info, thats actually the best way to go, its affordable, unlike 1500 cheap turbo builds
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 11:36 PM
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okay yes, low compression pistons, 750 cc injectors are fine but 440s will do, crome chipped ecu is cheaper and works fine but hondata is better. crower makes CHEAPER and reputable cams, valve springs, and retainers. block doesnt need to be sleeved for 8psi of boost, a block guard will do. sleeving isnt a bad idea though if your going 12+ pounds in the future. you dont NEED a 6 puck clutch or lightened flywheel, trust me, on a single cam, 6 pucks are tranny killers, just an aftermarket stage 2 kit should be fine, such as ACT or Exedy. and an LSD tranny is not an absolute necessity for 8 psi, although if you have the extra cash, buy one why not
i think the guy you quoted was being sarcastic.. or atleast i hope he was. sarcasm seems to run rampant here, much like misinformation.

first off, 8 psi means nothing without taking into consideration the size and volumetric efficiency of the turbo intended on being used. 8 psi on a 57 trim t3/t4 is not the same as 8 psi on a gt35r. lower compression pistons are NOT needed for a low amount of boost on a small turbo. an upgraded valvetrain and block guard are also NOT needed. you only need to worry about sleeving if you're aiming for a 300hp range or higher. and anything over about 220hp it's highly recommended you upgrade the stock tiny *** rods. notice how the necessity of a given component is based upon a hp range, not an amount of boost.

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Old Feb 14, 2010 | 05:01 AM
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you can boost that y7 with 8 pounds and will be fine just use 91 octane and minor tune and it will be ok, now the down side is the newer model single cams have crappy oil pressure compared to the 92-95 models you could do some engine mods to aid in this aspect but as you said you want little more power with out messing up reliability so just install it right and be careful
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 05:04 PM
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thanks guys you are great... thanks for the info and cant wait to get a single cam boosted if you have anymore input let me know
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 05:12 PM
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There is a dedicated 'forced induction' forum for turbo setup's, etc. Lot's of information to be found in there, but since all the replies have been somewhat informative.. I will not lock this. OP you need to do some research, lot's of research.

Originally Posted by D16SiHatch
i think the guy you quoted was being sarcastic.. or atleast i hope he was. sarcasm seems to run rampant here, much like misinformation.

first off, 8 psi means nothing without taking into consideration the size and volumetric efficiency of the turbo intended on being used. 8 psi on a 57 trim t3/t4 is not the same as 8 psi on a gt35r. lower compression pistons are NOT needed for a low amount of boost on a small turbo. an upgraded valvetrain and block guard are also NOT needed. you only need to worry about sleeving if you're aiming for a 300hp range or higher. and anything over about 220hp it's highly recommended you upgrade the stock tiny *** rods. notice how the necessity of a given component is based upon a hp range, not an amount of boost.
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 05:19 PM
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where do i get a computer or management system for this.... just need somethin to start with then will upgrade after the babies born.....
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 05:22 PM
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Browse the hondamarketplace. Also check under the sponsors section. There are companies that sell them.. pherable, etc
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 05:26 PM
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cheapest thing you can do is get a chipped ecu from somewhere like xenocron or phearable, or as the guy above said try to pick something up from the marketplace.

http://www.phearable.net/ecutuning.html

then bring it to a shop that tunes with neptune, crome, etc and they will be able to get it set up for you.
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 05:27 PM
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by D16SiHatch
i think the guy you quoted was being sarcastic.. or atleast i hope he was. sarcasm seems to run rampant here, much like misinformation.

first off, 8 psi means nothing without taking into consideration the size and volumetric efficiency of the turbo intended on being used. 8 psi on a 57 trim t3/t4 is not the same as 8 psi on a gt35r. lower compression pistons are NOT needed for a low amount of boost on a small turbo. an upgraded valvetrain and block guard are also NOT needed. you only need to worry about sleeving if you're aiming for a 300hp range or higher. and anything over about 220hp it's highly recommended you upgrade the stock tiny *** rods. notice how the necessity of a given component is based upon a hp range, not an amount of boost.
kinda figured, sarcasm is all too popular on here, instead of constructive criticism they give you the "stupid noob" response. they act like we all popped out of our mothers and our first word was "honda". i just try to share what info i know at least instead of being an ***. thats a nice explaination above though man, alot better than mine
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 09:40 PM
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thanks for the info i just got a sport jdm t3/t4 turbo what brand pistons and stuff do you guys prefer, is there a link to detailed process on adding a turbo
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 09:44 PM
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this is for a b-series but the same steps still apply for d

https://honda-tech.com/forums/forced-induction-16/complete-how-turbocharge-your-honda-rep-ing-hypnotik-speed-1263795/

if you stay stock internally then don't go over 220hp. if you want to do more then that then pick up some vitara pistons and eagle rods.
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 09:52 PM
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 12:19 PM
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now one more question my civic is obd2 do i need to convert to obd1 or are there computers out there i can get
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ReddHarlem
For 8psi you are going to need low compression pistons, 750cc injectors or bigger, hondata or some other expensive ecu, you'll need the head to be built with aftermarket springs/reatiners, a turbo cam, the block needs to be sleeved, you'll also need a 6-puck clutch and lightened flywheel. You're also going to need an LSD transmission or else you'll get massive amounts of torque steer that is going to kill you.
There is a dedicated Forced Induction forum. You should look there in order to avoid rampant mis-information such as this

BTW, i'm really tempted to lock this because you're not really getting a lot of help...if anything, this information is further obscuring your goal
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 04:38 PM
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everyone has been very helpful just wanted to know if i need to convert to obd1 or if i can stay with obd2 and if so is there a chip or somethin i can get and where
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 04:53 PM
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How much WHP can the D15/D16's take till they pop? I'm not worried about PSI, if you know anything about turbos you know how ridiculous it sounds to base a build off PSI
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 06:54 PM
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indeed^ with stock rods you don't want to be going past about 220hp. with aftermarket rods you could do 450hp+ safely. after looking around i've found numerous builds and videos of guys running these kind of numbers on stock sleeves. which is now part of the reason why i don't think i'll going be spending the money to sleeve my z6 for the vitara build. just don't think i'm going to need more hp then what stock sleeves can handle.

anywho. here's a stock sleeved d16 making some impressive numbers..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-CvdlJLes4
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