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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 04:28 PM
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My 06 Civic EX Sedan fishtails in slippery conditions. I have changed tires several times including putting on snow tires, have had my car aligned and checked several times... they find nothing. I even tried putting additional weight in the trunk. I notice it most around 32-40 miles per hour.

A family member also has a 2007 Civic LX and I have noticed it when driving her car as well. I've started asking around and I found another Civic owner who also noticed this sensation. It is frightening.

I am a proud Honda owner, in fact, this is my SIXTH new Honda... but I'm very disappointed and concerned that this is a design flaw and certainly a safety issue. Before making this post I noticed that 2 other people posted similar concerns on carcomplaints.com.

If anyone knows how I can get this problem addressed and resolved, I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks.
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 04:32 PM
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mine does it but its because of camber. which they do have stock as well. could just be roads
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 05:00 PM
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you're driving too fast
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 05:06 PM
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Make sure your tires with more tread are on the rear of your car.
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 2008fijibluesi
Make sure your tires with more tread are on the rear of your car.
adding to that, do NOT only get snow tires on the front. (for any FWD car)

yes you can accelerate good with only two on the front, but when you go to stop, the rear tires will have way less grip than the front and will cause your ***-end to slide out.
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 09:05 PM
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you're driving too fast
Because 40mph is WAY to fast for cars to be going nowadays.
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 09:09 PM
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Sounds like driver error to me......Or you could be on to something and it really is a "design flaw"...You should contact Honda immediately and let them know they missed something. Be sure to let them know who you are so they take you seriously......Re-re
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 09:45 PM
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Because 40mph is WAY to fast for cars to be going nowadays.
in the snow yeah.
and on unsafe road conditions which is what the original situation was.
and here you come assuming that this on a regular sunny day.
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 10:09 PM
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when you're used to the snow, 40 mph is not uncommon for a FWD vehicle.

unless they start plowing, then you better watch your *** cause it gets sloppy!
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 02:49 PM
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You can all hold your sense of humor for someone else...I'm serious about this...AND it is not the tires - YES I have ALL four snow tires - brand new...and all FOUR new All-seasons for the rest of the year.
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 04:38 PM
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I just drove in the snow a couple days ago here in jersey when the snow was terrible. It was around 2am when the snow was coming down a good amount. The roads were very slushy and the fastest i drove was 30mph because if i went faster i felt the car swirving left to right minutely. Last week we had another storm and i drove home at 4am when the snow was bad as well, roads were not slushy and i was able to drive home going about 40-45mph no problem. My car is a 4dr si on stock michelin all season tires with 10k on them. I am lowered and have negative camber in the back. Might just be road conditons? I've never had snow tires before, but i would think having snow tires doesnt mean u can drive on snow the way u would drive all season tires during the summer (not saying u are.)
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 04:59 PM
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i am no rally driving pro but if my Si is not bottoming out, with snow tires i'd prefer it over any 4x4 i have driven.

ok i lied .. my dad has a jeep that owns but besides that lol.

You can't blame it all on the Si's LSD either, cause i used to have a 2002 civic LX that performed pretty well too.
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 05:20 PM
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you know what they say about loose rear ends
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 06:04 AM
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^^hahaha
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by XkjeldorX
The roads were very slushy and the fastest i drove was 30mph because if i went faster i felt the car swirving left to right minutely. Last week we had another storm and i drove home at 4am when the snow was bad as well, roads were not slushy and i was able to drive home going about 40-45mph no problem.
Every FWD car I have driven has behaved in the same manner, and I've personally owned 6 FWD Hondas plus a 4WD CR-V, and I've driven THOUSANDS more Hondas and Acuras in the course of my career in Honda/Acura service. Snow-covered roads will cause a very mild side-to-side oscillation in the rear as you get moving faster. It's especially apparent on roads that haven't been plowed and salted or driven on heavily yet since the snowfall. This doesn't happen in dry, clear conditions. It's not a problem with the car, it's a problem stemming from your speed and the surface. If it bothers you that much, then you should either slow down or buy a RWD car.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 09:56 AM
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I have a 06 with the same issue, on mine its caused by the tow because my car is lowered. For everyone saying it is normal for a fwd car, This is not something normal, its actually pretty scary when your not ready for it. I can be driving in the rain on good roads at about 55 and the rear will drift. Mine has only been like this since it has been lowered though. Its pretty cool though when i adjust my KONIs up to full firm i can drift on back roads.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by civicjason
I have a 06 with the same issue, on mine its caused by the tow because my car is lowered. For everyone saying it is normal for a fwd car, This is not something normal, its actually pretty scary when your not ready for it. I can be driving in the rain on good roads at about 55 and the rear will drift. Mine has only been like this since it has been lowered though. Its pretty cool though when i adjust my KONIs up to full firm i can drift on back roads.
So it's not normal when you've modified the car improperly? No ****!
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by civicjason
I have a 06 with the same issue, on mine its caused by the tow because my car is lowered. For everyone saying it is normal for a fwd car, This is not something normal, its actually pretty scary when your not ready for it. I can be driving in the rain on good roads at about 55 and the rear will drift. Mine has only been like this since it has been lowered though. Its pretty cool though when i adjust my KONIs up to full firm i can drift on back roads.
why can't you get the toe set to the proper spec? i didn't have any issues get mine done.
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 09:40 PM
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I haven't noticed this on my stock all season tires on my 07 si with 33k miles. If its like 2 or 3 inches of snow then maybe but in my town most people are already going 35 at this point if there are 3 inches of snow accumulated on the ground and I am pretty sure I want to go that slow with that much snow.
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Old Feb 14, 2010 | 12:53 PM
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I noticed my car sliding but thats only because I have bald tires I just ordered a new set.
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Old Feb 14, 2010 | 01:32 PM
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So it's not normal when you've modified the car improperly? No ****!
Ive been here a week and already I like this guy. The know it all on the site.
Thats that i was saying there bud, I have the same issue, but i have only noticed it since my car has been lowered. That along with a bad chassis design.
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Old Feb 14, 2010 | 01:40 PM
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Ive been here a week and already I like this guy. The know it all on the site.
Thats that i was saying there bud, I have the same issue, but i have only noticed it since my car has been lowered. That along with a bad chassis design.
how's it a bad design? i've had 0 issues with alignment or sliding since lowering my car.
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Old Feb 14, 2010 | 01:50 PM
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Every FWD car I have driven has behaved in the same manner, and I've personally owned 6 FWD Hondas plus a 4WD CR-V, and I've driven THOUSANDS more Hondas and Acuras in the course of my career in Honda/Acura service. Snow-covered roads will cause a very mild side-to-side oscillation in the rear as you get moving faster. It's especially apparent on roads that haven't been plowed and salted or driven on heavily yet since the snowfall. This doesn't happen in dry, clear conditions. It's not a problem with the car, it's a problem stemming from your speed and the surface. If it bothers you that much, then you should either slow down or buy a RWD car.
By no means was i complaining about the car. I know that it had something to do with the weather conditions of that day. My post might of came across wrong, i was trying to explain to the OP that it was more likely weather conditions which is why his/her car was acting the way it was. And not for anything but for all the years i've been driving i have never had a problem in the snow with my hondas
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Old Feb 14, 2010 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by vladd
how's it a bad design? i've had 0 issues with alignment or sliding since lowering my car.
Honda ruined the civic in 02 when they went to the front strut rear shock. The motion ratio on the 06+ sucks ***. Dont get me wrong, I love my car but they would have stayed with the 88-00 suspension design
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Old Feb 14, 2010 | 08:38 PM
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there's a TSB for the rear camber (and control arm?).... might be your issue.
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