Witch one would make the best track car once built with the same engine? I know EG is lighter so I was wondering if there was any advantage going DC2? Balance, stuff like that...

I ask cause I'm about to buy an EG with K20 in, but I alwready have a built DC2 for track... I'm wondering if I should swap k20 into mine or swap, brakes, suspensions, well all the goodies not relate to engine onto the EG...

I'll just sales what over left after?

I'm wondering if there's imput I woudln't have thought about before making any moved...

Thanks guys!'

 

Step 1: Are you racing in a class?
Step 2: If you are, the minimum weight is already determined, and the comparison doesn't really matter. Aero is the only minor difference really.
Step 3: Search the RRAX archives for "which car" and you will turn up MUCH more Narrow it down a little by searching with the phrase in quotes.

Opened back up

 

I hug my EG race car everyday!

Id close this one stinky... it has Help me.. show me pics of your exhaust all over it.
The debate of what car, engine, car freshener, and do i or dont i use pink lug nuts... help me decide...

 

I talked with maxo via PM, we'll see what the thread brings.

 

Which chassis can you get cheaper? That will probably decide it for you...

 

the one that you have. or if you have both...the one that runs. if both run then back to back "test" them. regardless it is all fun. like adam said..is this for a certain class or series?? if not then shake n bake.

 

What I'm looking for here is details, thing that are good to know before considering one over the other, from people that race with both chassis with a k20 swap... I know a lot about both since I owned both... I race, lap and autox my dc2 for the last 6 years and I can tell you that pink studs are the slowest... ; )

Like I told Stinky, most thread are 4-5 years old... I thought that some experience relate to roadracing that could have been acquired since then that would be good to know...

If the thread leeds nowhere, I'll say, lock it!!

 

I personally owned 4 different EF's (2 crx's, and 2 hatches). I now own a 2 door dc2 witch i love.

The biggest difference that I noticed going to the dc2 was in the bigger wheel base.
It feels more stable. witch gives me a lot more confidence to push it when it's on the track.

 

Id stay with the DC2 over the EG hatch. But no pink lug nuts.
I see more DC2's using a K series engines than the EG for racing.
Thats not to say there arent any EG's out there with a Kseries engines.
There are still a good number of B series engines out there in the DC2
especially in H2.
But if I had a choice of one chassis over the other, id refer to our friend Kiwi who has owned a few DC2's & runs a K.
He has been most successful with this combination.
Stability seems to be the common bond with that chassis. When I had my GSR I loved how the car felt in any situation.
Just dont use the pink lug nuts. lol

 

Which DC2 are you referring to? I think the Integra Type R is far superior to the Integra GS-R or the EG Civic for track use. But if you're comparing the GS-R with the EG, that's a different matter.

Note - This assumes that you're comparing stock vs stock. You can modify any car any way you like but then it's no longer an apples-to-apples comparison unless you're comparing two cars that both have the exact same mods.

 

As I say in my first post, I own a DC2 with all the racing goodies. I'm about to buy an EG with a k20 swap... So basicly the 2 chassis could be dress with the same set up... Throwing the k20 in my dc2 or throwing all the goodies on the EG... I'm talking about a 90% track car, nothing stock there... I just want to drive it to the track... no grocerie in there... and no pink lugs nut!

 

Exemple of question I ask my self...

Should I consider wheelbase over weight?

Anyone has ever put those 2 set up on balance to see the weight distribution with a k20?

Witch design is more stable at high speed considering the roof shape?

I know I'm going a bit technical, but isin't the title of that website? Honda-tech?

: )

Keep sharing your knowledge and experience and thanks for doing so!

 

Weight can be brought down to practically the same thing for both chassis, and shouldn't really be considered an issue (unless you're RACING in a restrictive class where you might not be able to change certain parts...which you still haven't clarified). Weight distribution is also just about the same.

I am not sure which one is better for aero.

 

I agree with Stinkycheezmonky, stop considering curb weight.
- The fact that you are using a non-stock engine in both chassis, you are already forced into classes that allow for alternate engines or swaps. In every one of those classes that I am familiar with (MC and SCCA), the minimum weight is based off the engine size, and therefore both of your choices would get the same minimum weight.
- Also, since the engine swap classes tend to be higher prep level, I have no doubt you could get both chassis down to the minimum weight.

 

What the F@Ck do you guys have against pink lug nuts? I've been trying to find them but everyone seems to be sold out. BTW. We do have a young lady running pink lug nuts in her H2 CRX.

 

Ok then, seems likes both route leeds to the same... Since people tend to say, that wheelbase is the major thing to consider, and that the dc seems to be less upset in cornering entry considering they have the same setup, I might stick with my DC... Good thing cause I like it!! After all , the goal is to be on the gas asap!

 

Pink lug nuts are cool for guys.

 

Damn Skippy.

 

The DC and EG hatch/coupe have the same wheelbase, if I'm not mistaken. The EG sedan has a longer wheelbase than the DC. Can someone else verify that though?

 

You would want to run pink lugnuts

 

This is correct, although I dont recall wheelbase specs.

 

Yes, much like additional stickers and decals, they add much needed HP. Pink Lug Nuts are also lighter IIRC.

 

I race an EG, always have.

In H2, i feel pretty confident that the EG can get lighter. In H1 I still feel the EG can get lighter but it would be splitting hairs really, IMO.

If my car gets balled up, and start over again with a DC, for a few reasons.

The DC engine bay is a little bigger (taller) then the EG. So a K24 w/OE PS would work, wont fly with an EG.

The DC has better aero, then an EG hatch. The drop off style of the hatchback creates a lot of turbulence, this equals drag.


Those are the only two reasons i could come up with...

Although, i usually see EGs cheaper then DCs....

 

yeah the sedan is ~1.3inch longer in the wheelbase department.

and if i recall correctly. a stock motor eg sedan caught an itr. am i opening up a new can of worms? lol.

 

no your opening

"when you are on a road course its mostly about driver talent and not about HP."


I've seen H4/ITA cars catch GT3 cup cars...


It's all about the driver.