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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 12:41 AM
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Default DRivers side sits lower than passenger...WHY?

Hey I have a 95 hatch with tokico whites in front and stock shocks back with eibach lowering springs. Why does the drivers side always sit like .5-1inch lower that the passenger? have you ever had that? something going out?
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 01:02 AM
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i think its time for some coilovers....that'll solve it.
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 03:16 AM
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Check your front bushings?

I know my front driver side is lower by a finger because of the LCA bushings
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 03:48 AM
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its because it sags on that side. it does this for two reasons.

1: the motor weight is on that side and the transmission does not weigh enough to balance it out.

2: the drivers weight is on that side and unless you always have a passenger it will not even itself out.

its annoying, my car was like that as well. the only ways to fix it is to:

1: switch to coilovers (best idea)

2: switch to right hand drive (stupid idea and not worth the cost)
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 06:48 AM
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mine is the same way. .5in lower drivers side. was like that before i dropped it to. Its noticeable in the wheel gap as the drivers side is flush with the fender and passenger is not but whatever. it handles great
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 07:33 AM
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its just how it is after 15 years of driving. cars sag and its typically on the drivers side.

ive heard the UK guys complain about it on their side too.

just how it is.
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 09:09 AM
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If your springs are a good number of years old, you might try swapping the springs left-to-right. In some cases you could probably just swap the whole spring/shock assembly left-to-right on the front and rotate the top hat so that the shock and brake line bracket will be oriented correctly.
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Type_R_Nammer
Check your front bushings?

I know my front driver side is lower by a finger because of the LCA bushings
can I fill up those bushings with the 3m window weld that they use for home made motor mounts?
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 10:23 AM
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If your springs are a good number of years old, you might try swapping the springs left-to-right. In some cases you could probably just swap the whole spring/shock assembly left-to-right on the front and rotate the top hat so that the shock and brake line bracket will be oriented correctly.


we'll try


THANKS GUYS
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 01:14 PM
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can I fill up those bushings with the 3m window weld that they use for home made motor mounts?
No, you cannot do that for suspension bushings as those do not have holes in them like engine mounts do.

Also you can't swap the whole spring/shock assembly like I thought because the brake line brackets would be oriented differently. You would have to disassemble and reassemble the springs/shocks to swap the springs left-to-right.

Actually I may try that on my car sometime soon because I think my front left spring may be sagging a bit.
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 01:22 PM
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No, you cannot do that for suspension bushings as those do not have holes in them like engine mounts do.

Also you can't swap the whole spring/shock assembly like I thought because the brake line brackets would be oriented differently. You would have to disassemble and reassemble the springs/shocks to swap the springs left-to-right.

Actually I may try that on my car sometime soon because I think my front left spring may be sagging a bit.
yea I figured well cross our fingers and give it a shot thanks
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 01:22 PM
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I Lowerd my car in the rear with stock shocks and springs. I just threaded the bolt to the top hat down much further than normal. Actually seems to be ok for now, but I plan on getting some coilovers pretty soon. What I am saying that it is possible to adjust hieght on a non adjustable susp.
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Default Re: DRivers side sits lower than passenger...WHY?

Originally Posted by S2Integra
I Lowerd my car in the rear with stock shocks and springs. I just threaded the bolt to the top hat down much further than normal. Actually seems to be ok for now, but I plan on getting some coilovers pretty soon. What I am saying that it is possible to adjust hieght on a non adjustable susp.
If your ride height changed due to changing the amount the top nut was threaded, then your suspension has PROBLEMS!

The top nut should be threaded down ALL the way anyway, but really it has no effect on ride height whatsoever, assuming a normal coilover-type shock/spring assembly like used on the rear of most Civics and Integras, You should be able to loosen and remove that top nut altogether with the car sitting on the ground and ride height should NOT change at all.

The weight of the car pushes down on the shock top hat, which pushes down on the spring, and the spring sits on the spring perch, with a fixed distance from the spring perch down to the lower mount and LCA. These are what control ride height on the spring/shock assembly: spring length and spring rate, and spring perch distance from the LCA. Also to a lesser degree, the ratio of the shock lower mount to inner LCA bolt distance to the overall LCA length affects ride height.

Again, there should never be any ride height change merely by loosening or tightening that upper mount center nut.
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