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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 05:34 AM
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ok guys, running an HPDE3 with NASA in February. we've only been as early as march before, and as far as i know it snowed a while last year.. here's my options:

BFG Touring T/A all seasons (we'll be driving down on these anyways)
used RT-615 Azenis (195/60-14)
used Yoko A032R's..(205/50-15)

i'm just wondering if it's worth it to run the R comps. we have a light, way underpowered (especially for the VIR back straight) 94 miata.. i don't think we'll be able to work enough heat into the R comps for them to be useful compared to even the Azenis..

what do you guys think? obviously it definitely depends on the actual temperatures and precipitation that does occur, but just trying to get an idea ahead of time. thanks!
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 05:49 AM
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u might wanna bring snows for feb VIR
its definitely possible to get heat in the r-comps (think: spec-miata) but going out on streets at least for the first couple sessions if its cold out wouldn't be a bad idea. bring the azenis.
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 07:04 AM
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you can get heat into race tires at near freezing conditions, but it takes a couple laps to do so.
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 07:48 AM
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. bring the azenis.
+1 for spence.

I've been a few years to feb, its COLD always. I got heat in to RA-1's before but it did take some time for sure.

I'll be there this year, maybe see you there!
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 08:24 AM
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so consensus so far is pretty much stick with the Azenis and save the R comps for warmer weather? i mean, i assume that the R comps could warm up eventually, but probably would take about 5-6 laps. they were taking about 3-4 laps at Shenandoah in November during the morning sessions..

it's actually my wife driving. she'll be at the instructor clinic, also. we are staying at the inn keeper!! woot!! i'll be taking pictures as usual.
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 09:06 AM
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Why not bring both and run them as the weather develops? It'd be a shame to miss out on using them if the weather wound up being nice.

<---- Has every possible finger crossed for no snow...
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 09:07 AM
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Why not bring both and run them as the weather develops? It'd be a shame to miss out on using them if the weather wound up being nice.

<---- Has every possible finger crossed for no snow...
Would you like me to make studded BFG R1's for you?

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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 09:22 AM
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*BLORT*
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 09:23 AM
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you got yoru own problems to worry about sander man. Im comming out to rule the instructor group in my 4dr integra...BOOYA!
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 09:55 AM
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Hey Sander, double-team Caseypunt?
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 10:07 AM
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tire trailer is only so big. will not fit 2 sets of tires, just one.

so i will for sure have the all seasons, just because they are decent to drive down on.. just wondering what extra set i should pack.
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 12:36 PM
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Where are you coming from? Drive down on the Azenis and carry the r's. Have driven 3-4 hours from VA Beach in years past with no problem.
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SR20Goofus
you got yoru own problems to worry about sander man. Im comming out to rule the instructor group in my 4dr integra...BOOYA!
you may rule in feb...but that is only cause i won't be there to lap you.....shooting to run 208's in instructor group!!
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 01:34 PM
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strasburg.. would be not a very fun drive if it rained at all. or worse, snowed. i mean, i'll have to look at the weather obviously before going down..
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 02:57 PM
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Default Re: VIR in February with NASA, HPDE tires..

I'll also be down @ VIR in Feb.. planning on bringing my RE11's but would also have the BFGoodridge Traction T/A's that I am driving down on...
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 03:22 PM
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I'll also be down @ VIR in Feb.. planning on bringing my RE11's but would also have the BFGoodridge Traction T/A's that I am driving down on...
TRACK-shun T/A crew!!
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 06:23 PM
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Default Re: VIR in February with NASA, HPDE tires..

Originally Posted by chad
you may rule in feb...but that is only cause i won't be there to lap you.....shooting to run 208's in instructor group!!


far from rule.....bone stock 4 dr integra with 225k miles....its my daily.

My 240sx isnt finished its winter makeover so i wont be able to come down and roll the vetts with ya, sorry, but i will be instructing nonetheless.
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by chad
you may rule in feb...but that is only cause i won't be there to lap you.....shooting to run 208's in instructor group!!
come GET SOME WITH MY A3 beeeotch!

Im shooting for 1:45's qualifying for Rolex / Grand-Am
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by smokin rubber
you can get heat into race tires at near freezing conditions, but it takes a couple laps to do so.
Yup. 3 and 4 years ago, I did events at VIR the second weekend in December with Chin Motorsports. Both times, the weather there was similar. The day started with temperatures in the mid to upper twenties. I brought R compounds with me (Toyo RA-1). Grip wasn't great, but I bet it wouldn't be great with street tires like the Azenis either. It gradually got better as the day progressed. For several hours in the mid afternoon, it was in the mid forties, and the R comps were gripping nicely. By the end of the day (around 5 pm) the temperature was already starting to drop. All in all, the R comps worked fine and I'd use them again in those conditions (I'd just be especially careful first thing in the morning).

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it's actually my wife driving. she'll be at the instructor clinic, also. we are staying at the inn keeper!! woot!! i'll be taking pictures as usual.
I assume she has enough experience to use the R comps. Honestly, I'd bring the R comps with me. If there's no snow or bitter cold in the forecast, you could always drive down on the Azenis and use them in the first session of the day if you wanted.

I like the Innkeeper too. Decent place with good room rates.
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 01:28 AM
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she has done one event with them. but she does know to warm them up too. and it won't be her first time at VIR either.. and she will be sitting in on the instructor clinic.. hopefully becoming an instructor in march.
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 04:29 AM
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BFGs + R-comps sound like the winner.

+1 on Innkeeper, just booked a room there too.
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by E-AT_me
TRACK-shun T/A crew!!
lol, here's hoping that the TRACK-shun T/A crew stays in the paddock!
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 02:51 PM
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yes, that would be choice.
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by E-AT_me
strasburg.. would be not a very fun drive if it rained at all. or worse, snowed. i mean, i'll have to look at the weather obviously before going down..
weak. me, boxter steve and prelude chris drove from summit to nj/ny in rediculous snow on bald azenis, bfg r-comps and 'ok' azenis respectively.
scary doesn't quite capture it
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 05:57 PM
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i've done that from Fredericksburg to Centreville once.. oh yeah, and the miata with a trailer i'm sure would handle slightly different than your ef.. hehe.
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