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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 03:16 PM
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In the midst of trying to solve my idle issues, my 98 gsr wnt start. Throwin code 15. So can someone please tell me where the "ignitor" is? I did search, everyone mentions it but no 1 says where it's at. Also, when I took off dizzy cap, the rotor had no screw on it, and one side of lil metal deally was bent.
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 03:18 PM
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Also, motors semi built, MSD 6a ignition box, external coil. Cranks but no spark to plug wires when I pull one off while cranking.
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 03:27 PM
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The ignitor is inside the distributor. Check your 6a wiring.
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 05:52 PM
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The ignitor is inside the distributor. Check your 6a wiring.
So where the 6a is wired, is that the ignitor??
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 06:15 PM
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I checked where the wires from the msd box go into the dizzy, they are soldered together. Dnt seem to be bad.
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 06:16 PM
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The two MSD wires that go into the distributor should not be soldered together. THey should be soldered as follows.
The red MSD should go to the BLK/YEL wire inside the dist. 12v source.
The white MSD wire should go to the WHT/BLU wire inside the dist. Trigger wire.
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 06:24 PM
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GREAT pic!!!!!!!!! Thank you "ghost" ....so u think that my be bad or the 6a?
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 06:34 PM
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K, just checkd them, they are soldered like that.... Then there's a lonely green wire left on the ignitor
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 06:38 PM
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What if I swaped it wit my buddies 98 LS, just to see if the ignitor is bad? Or would I risk messing his up?
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 06:53 PM
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Is this a factory external coil distributor or a converted one? How many connections are on your ignitor?
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 07:10 PM
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Is this a factory external coil distributor or a converted one? How many connections are on your ignitor?
It doenst say msd or anything on cap but it has the 5th stud on top that plugs n 2 msd external coil
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 07:12 PM
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Is this how your ignitor looks?



YEL/GRN = Ignition input signal from ECU sounds like you might be missing this one! Very important wire.
BLK/YEL = Coil 12v (+) (connect RED MSD wire)
GRN = Coil Ground (-) (connect WHT MSD wire)
BLU = Tach signal wire

Here is how it would be hooked up using the original distributor wire harness.

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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 07:13 PM
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As for the connectors, gimmie bout 30min. Had to come to store real quick.
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 07:21 PM
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Seems like mine has more pins.....
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 07:53 PM
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K, keep in mind that it has been runnin with current wire set up for bout 3months for me and supposedly 4-5years with previous owner.....has 3 pins on top, 1 on side, facing the top of dizzy. Wht wire from msd is going to the yellow with grn stripe, red wire is to black with yellow AND yellow with black stripe wire from ignitor. Black with yellow stripe is pinned to ignitor, yellow with black stripe goes around ignitor into exterior plug of the dizzy. Hope u can understand that.
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 08:40 PM
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Well if it's been working up until now, as is, then I would swap out the ignitor and see if that fixes your problem. Easy enough. No need to complicate things eh!
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 05:44 AM
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Haha....yea I agree, so could i swap out ignitor with my buddies 98 LS? Or would I risk messing his up? Or would it even wrk, LS GSR?
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 05:55 AM
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They are probably the exact same part. If the wiring is good and it was working for 4-5 years. I can't see it doing any harm to his igniter.
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 06:53 AM
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Kewl....I dnt have to take whole dizzy off ryt? Just unplug and unscrew lil screws?
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 07:07 AM
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Just be careful not to drop the liittle screws.

If the screws are real hard to break loose, grab them with a small pair of needle nose vise-grips on the side of the head and use it like a open end wrench.

Also it's sometimes cheaper to buy a rebuilt dizzy at this time. The next thing to go could be the coil and it may take the ignitor with it. Been there, done that. Would have been cheap to go with the rebuilt in the first place.
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 07:52 AM
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Ah, Ok gotcha. Imma try it out n lil while. If it starts, we c wtf....I'm wondering if the fact that my rotor was just spinning round n there and chewed up dizzy cap had anything to do with ignitor??????? Hmmmmm
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 08:16 AM
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Wow...just took look at it, looks preety tough to get too.
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 08:20 AM
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I took off all the lil screws visible, then noticed the ignitor had another screw on the back. Inside the hole, inside dizzy.....do I have to pull it off? Dizzy?
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 08:50 PM
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Anyone know?
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 05:09 AM
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You shouldn't have to remove it.

Even if you do it's pretty easy to do. What you want to do first is bring the motor to TDC on the compression stroke. Then if you want you can mark a line across the base of the distributor and the cylinder head mating surfaces with a marker/scribe. This will ensure that you keep the same base position if you have an adjustable distributor. Then remove the distributor cap and disconnect the wire connectors. Ether take a picture or write down where all of the wires go. I think we have that covered already.....lol Finally remove the three mounting bolts that hold the distributor in place.
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