Help Me with my Kony/GC setup
sup guys i need help with my kony/Gc setup i got the GC (used) from a guy and the kony (BNIB) from another lol
but the GC r this:
F 107694 - 0600.250.0500
R 86724 - GC180.64.44
i dont know the spring rates of those GC, and the koni r the sports, at first i used the GC with my sotck shock rides bouncy them i put the koni with the GC but now i feel more bouncy the car i dont know why but some body can help me or tell me what i need or what is wrong ??
but the GC r this:
F 107694 - 0600.250.0500
R 86724 - GC180.64.44
i dont know the spring rates of those GC, and the koni r the sports, at first i used the GC with my sotck shock rides bouncy them i put the koni with the GC but now i feel more bouncy the car i dont know why but some body can help me or tell me what i need or what is wrong ??
Last edited by JrEk9; Jan 11, 2010 at 07:16 PM.
I think the bounciness you describe twice is different between those cases.
When mounting stiff springs with stock shocks then these shocks have no damping potential enough to damp the stiff springs' movement well, so the bounce you experience is 'bad' bounce as in the body of the car bounces on the suspension, which is bad cause this is a side effect of underdamped wheel movement, which degrades road contact, and your body movement in relation to the suspension changes wheel geometry (like toe and camber) constantly.
In the other case, when mounting stiff shocks/springs, wheel/road contact will be much better, the body of the car will move much less relative to the suspension keeping geometry intact. However, since suspension is stiffer it will respond (move in relation to the body) much less to road unevenness so the car as a whole will move more with road unevenness which leads to the other kind of 'bouce' experience.
When mounting stiff springs with stock shocks then these shocks have no damping potential enough to damp the stiff springs' movement well, so the bounce you experience is 'bad' bounce as in the body of the car bounces on the suspension, which is bad cause this is a side effect of underdamped wheel movement, which degrades road contact, and your body movement in relation to the suspension changes wheel geometry (like toe and camber) constantly.
In the other case, when mounting stiff shocks/springs, wheel/road contact will be much better, the body of the car will move much less relative to the suspension keeping geometry intact. However, since suspension is stiffer it will respond (move in relation to the body) much less to road unevenness so the car as a whole will move more with road unevenness which leads to the other kind of 'bouce' experience.

Right now is a bit lower than that
I think the bounciness you describe twice is different between those cases.
When mounting stiff springs with stock shocks then these shocks have no damping potential enough to damp the stiff springs' movement well, so the bounce you experience is 'bad' bounce as in the body of the car bounces on the suspension, which is bad cause this is a side effect of underdamped wheel movement, which degrades road contact, and your body movement in relation to the suspension changes wheel geometry (like toe and camber) constantly.
In the other case, when mounting stiff shocks/springs, wheel/road contact will be much better, the body of the car will move much less relative to the suspension keeping geometry intact. However, since suspension is stiffer it will respond (move in relation to the body) much less to road unevenness so the car as a whole will move more with road unevenness which leads to the other kind of 'bouce' experience.
When mounting stiff springs with stock shocks then these shocks have no damping potential enough to damp the stiff springs' movement well, so the bounce you experience is 'bad' bounce as in the body of the car bounces on the suspension, which is bad cause this is a side effect of underdamped wheel movement, which degrades road contact, and your body movement in relation to the suspension changes wheel geometry (like toe and camber) constantly.
In the other case, when mounting stiff shocks/springs, wheel/road contact will be much better, the body of the car will move much less relative to the suspension keeping geometry intact. However, since suspension is stiffer it will respond (move in relation to the body) much less to road unevenness so the car as a whole will move more with road unevenness which leads to the other kind of 'bouce' experience.
Then you probably need to atleast increase the dampening in the front. If you have the front loose all the way with those spring rates then I could see that you may be 'bouncy'. Turn the **** all the way counter clockwise then clockwise about 4-6 bumps. (bumps are the out-dents on the Koni adjustment ****.)
I have a set of OTS springs (375f/300r) if you need them. Throw me an offer.
I have a set of OTS springs (375f/300r) if you need them. Throw me an offer.
Then you probably need to atleast increase the dampening in the front. If you have the front loose all the way with those spring rates then I could see that you may be 'bouncy'. Turn the **** all the way counter clockwise then clockwise about 4-6 bumps. (bumps are the out-dents on the Koni adjustment ****.)
I have a set of OTS springs (375f/300r) if you need them. Throw me an offer.
I have a set of OTS springs (375f/300r) if you need them. Throw me an offer.
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Can you tell/show us how you have the kit mounted on the konis? The GC kit uses different pieces between stock and koni shocks. I'm interested to see how the parts are installed.
like this....
The threaded sleeve needs to be installed without the spring perch in place, and needs to capture the circlip in place.
No first hand experience (mine are installed correctly), but have read that the perch and/or circlip will eventually fail when run like that.
So, how unsafe is it to suddenly have no spring on one corner of the car while driving? At freeway speeds, probably rather disastrous...
So, how unsafe is it to suddenly have no spring on one corner of the car while driving? At freeway speeds, probably rather disastrous...
No first hand experience (mine are installed correctly), but have read that the perch and/or circlip will eventually fail when run like that.
So, how unsafe is it to suddenly have no spring on one corner of the car while driving? At freeway speeds, probably rather disastrous...
So, how unsafe is it to suddenly have no spring on one corner of the car while driving? At freeway speeds, probably rather disastrous...
GC coilovers for Koni Yellows are specific for these shocks: the sleeve fits tight around the shock and the bottom is made to capture the Koni circlip.
From the looks of the sleeves the OP is running, he may be able to use our adaptors on his current pieces, but I cannot be sure from these pictures. Either way we have both here. JrEK9, give me a call and we can get this sorted out.
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