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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 11:00 AM
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So about a month ago i bought this 99 integra from a friend of mine for 1000, the car has 110,000 on the od, in june he had the timing done, had timing belt, head gasket, water pump, valves, pretty much the whole motor rebuilt. Its got really good compression at 168 in all cylinders.

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1999 acura integra LS, B18b engine with a B16 tranny(99 civic SI), it only has a cheap ebay cold air intake on it(came with the car) and a stage 2 exedy clutch, the clutch needs replacing soon as the springs on the pressure plate are no good anymore. other than that the car is COMPLELTY stock.

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I am going to turbo the car, i want to have it done by around april at the latest. Im shooting for about 275hp to the wheels on the stock block, 375-400 after i rebuild in the fall. The car is deffenetly going to see a lot of drag racing at the track, once maybe twice a month. Its going to be a semi daily driver, i dont tend to drive my cars too hard on the street, BUT i dont baby them either. I deffenetly do keep up with all the maintenece on them tho oil changes, brakes, filters etc are always being changed as needed

This is the parts list i have put together so far for the turbo(anything with this * next to it i already have)
Engine
*turbonetics T3/T4
tial wastegate(not sure what size to go for)
*HKS sequential BOV
full race turbo header
*3" downpipe
Deciding between skunk2, thermal exhaust, or Graddy TI-C 3" exhaust systems.
half sized radiator(need to find one)
*skunk2 intake manifold
thinking about going with a 68-70mm throttle body
hondata s???
Fuel system
*AEM fuel rails
*welbro inline 255lph fuel pump
AEM fuel pressure regulator
RC 450cc injectors
Need help on finding a FMU(i have absolutely no idea what to get)

Thats pretty much all i can think of right now, i had it all written down somewhere but cant find it lol

Now during this build, I WILL HAVE A BILLION QUESTIONS about litterarly everything lol ill also try to do some DIY on here aswell. But ill ask the question as they come.

So my first question is going to be about the clutch and flywheel combo i should use.

I posted on another thread about the clutch i want to get. I want to go with a stage 3 or 4 so that it can handle the power i am shooting for. I was looking at a CC stage 3 clutch, but i found out that they only make it for hydro trannys(i think). Like i said before, I have a B16 tranny from a 99 SI, which is a cable tranny. I know that all dc2 came with hydro trannys. So my question is, can ANYBODY give me a link to a stage 3 or 4 clutch(plz make it a good one, CC clutch would be great). Iv found a couple kits but they dont match up with my car, either they are for a hydro transmission or they are for other years( like 88-91, 92-93 etc) which i dont think will fit.

Here are the part numbers for the clutch and flywheel

This is the flywheel i am going to buy
http://gripforce.com/store/index.php...roducts_id=349
And i was thinking about this flywheel before i decided with the exedy
http://jhpusa.com/store/pc/viewPrd.a...idproduct=3865

The clutch is a competion clutch stage 3 street/strip series 2300 segmented kevlar clutch kit part #8026-2300, which i told would not fit on my car.
Help me out with this guys please!!!!
Thanks in advanced!!!!
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 11:39 AM
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Looking at the part numbers for Exedy stage 2 clutches it seems that the Civic Del Sol (wityh b16A), the 1994-2001 integras, and the 99 Civic Si's all have the same clutch kit. It doesn't really matter if they are hydro or cable, for the most part the clutch kits are different between hydro and cable.

But in the case of a tranny such as a big spline YS1 it is cable and uses a clutch kit from a 1994 integra. I was under the impression that the tranny in a 99 Civic Si was a hydro tranny but I could be wrong. But either way, if it is a 99 civic Si trans it should use the same clutch kit as a 94-01 integra.

Which trans do you have? is it an s4c, Y21, S21, or something else?

http://www.g2ic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=165175

if you look at the above link you will see a nice chart that says that the 99 civic Si had a hydro tranny.
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 12:07 PM
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all b-series hydro tranny's take the same clutch
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 03:39 PM
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Looking at the part numbers for Exedy stage 2 clutches it seems that the Civic Del Sol (wityh b16A), the 1994-2001 integras, and the 99 Civic Si's all have the same clutch kit. It doesn't really matter if they are hydro or cable, for the most part the clutch kits are different between hydro and cable.

But in the case of a tranny such as a big spline YS1 it is cable and uses a clutch kit from a 1994 integra. I was under the impression that the tranny in a 99 Civic Si was a hydro tranny but I could be wrong. But either way, if it is a 99 civic Si trans it should use the same clutch kit as a 94-01 integra.

Which trans do you have? is it an s4c, Y21, S21, or something else?

http://www.g2ic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=165175

if you look at the above link you will see a nice chart that says that the 99 civic Si had a hydro tranny.
See this is where i get confused lol the tech i go to said that it should have a cable trans, the guy that sold me the car said the same thing, but when i look for a clutch for a 99 civic si it has the same part numbers as a 94-01 hydro trans, i was also told that a hydro clutch would NOT fit a cable trans... Im not sure what kind of trans it is all i know is that its from a 1999 honda civic SI(b16) other than that thats all i know, is there any kind of way for me to check which one it is? is it stamped on the tranny somewhere?

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all b-series hydro tranny's take the same clutch
What about a b-series cable trans?
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 04:28 PM
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I think i might go with this tranny instead, its a competition stage 4 clutch, here is the part number #CK-8026-4

Let me know what you guys think about this clutch for a turbo B18b, and PLEASE tell me if it will fit or not.
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 11:08 PM
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ok your car is a 99 so it has a hydro tranny, now older cars that use cable tranny's car use a hydo with a conversion kit but doesn't work vice versa
again any 94-01 integra hydro clutch will work
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 11:51 PM
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ok your car is a 99 so it has a hydro tranny, now older cars that use cable tranny's car use a hydo with a conversion kit but doesn't work vice versa
again any 94-01 integra hydro clutch will work
Does this apply to the 99 honda civic SI aswell? thats the tranny i have
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 10:51 AM
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 12:08 PM
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yes a 99-00 civic si is hydro common man read the posts, I've been doing this for years trust me
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 12:52 PM
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the type of trans that it is should be on the transmission. You should be able to see it if you open the hood and look at the trans. I believe it is supposed to be an Y21 or S21 if it is 99 Civic Si trans. The type of trans it is should be on a sticker on the side of the trans facing the front of the car

here is a picture of the trans in my old Civic as you can see on the sticker if you look hard it was an S4C hydro trans. Also if you have a hydro trans you will have the clutch master cylinder next to the brake master cylinder and a clutch slave cylinder on the trans. in this picture the slave cylinder is covered by that rubber covering on the lower right of the picture

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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 08:16 PM
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yes a 99-00 civic si is hydro common man read the posts, I've been doing this for years trust me
Hey man im deffenetly not doubting your knowledge here dude just trying to make sure, and double sure of what i need to buy. Im not new to the car modding game, but DEFFENETLY new to the import world. Iv had two cars(im only 19 lol) a camaro ss(r.i.p.) and the car i have now a 03 mustang GT. I built the camaro to run a 11.9 at the 1/4 mile on all motor. Im currently building my mustang aswell. Right now it runs a 13.0 on 8psi and a VERY safe tune(im going to up the boost soon as i build the engine and throw in some blower cams, and a forged rotating assembly, maybe a 100 shot too) all the work has been done by me, only thing that im going to take the mustang to the shop for is for the motor build cuz i have never ever done that nor have i seen anybody do that in person. But these imports are a whole new story for me, these little 4cyl engines can make a whole **** load of power, can be rediculously quick, and reliable(HONDA RULES lol) with half the money thats put into a V8. I used to hate on them until i got mine, now its NOTHING but respect to little 4 bangers, and mad respect to those of you who know what your doing who build these cars to completly smoke any V8 out there!!!

P.S on the camaro i did nothing to the tranny since the guy i bought it from had already put a high performance clutch that i never had to even touch. and the mustang is automatic, so 5spd trannys are a new thing to me. I love to learn about cars its all i do on my spare time, research anything i can about any car.

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the type of trans that it is should be on the transmission. You should be able to see it if you open the hood and look at the trans. I believe it is supposed to be an Y21 or S21 if it is 99 Civic Si trans. The type of trans it is should be on a sticker on the side of the trans facing the front of the car

here is a picture of the trans in my old Civic as you can see on the sticker if you look hard it was an S4C hydro trans. Also if you have a hydro trans you will have the clutch master cylinder next to the brake master cylinder and a clutch slave cylinder on the trans. in this picture the slave cylinder is covered by that rubber covering on the lower right of the picture

Ill check it out tomorrow morning so i can order the clutch and flywheel already. i got a really good deal on a cc clutch/flywheel combo from someone here on HT so gotta get it before he sells it lol
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 08:55 AM
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Ok so mu next question about my build would have to be on the ignition. I seemed to have over looked this and wondering what kind of ignition system should i be running(plugs, wires, distributor cap and rotor etc) should i pick up a msd ignition system with a msd blaster coil( i think thats what its called lol) with some msd or ngk wires? whats the best combo.
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Did you find out which trans you have?
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 04:15 PM
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I think its the s4c, the little sticker on the tranny was missing some of the edges and i can barley make out the letters, heres a pic see what you think it is
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 04:35 PM
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Just thought i would show off the car a little bit so you guys can see and tell me what you think about the car. i only have these right now but i will post more later on when the wheather gets nice again....

This is a video of when i seafoamed the car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgX8DR4mQWE

These are all the pics i have for now, let me know what you guys think.




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Ok so mu next question about my build would have to be on the ignition. I seemed to have over looked this and wondering what kind of ignition system should i be running(plugs, wires, distributor cap and rotor etc) should i pick up a msd ignition system with a msd blaster coil( i think thats what its called lol) with some msd or ngk wires? whats the best combo.
Leave it all stock, run ngk bkr7e plugs though, they run a tad bit colder. Stock honda ignition has been proven to hold well over 700whp

Also, if your going to be running a hondata system, why are you wanting an FMU?
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O and clutch masters makes a much better clutch than competition clutches.
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That, my friend is a hydro transmission which means you can use the 94-01 integra clutch kit.

That car seems pretty damn clean. Personally I prefer the DA body style but that is a nice DC.

I will say one thing though, I think that if you are planning to go with turbo you might want a trans with longer gears especially if you are taking it to the track.
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I will say one thing though, I think that if you are planning to go with turbo you might want a trans with longer gears especially if you are taking it to the track.
MYTH!!!! What facts do you have to prove this "theory"
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MYTH!!!! What facts do you have to prove this "theory"
Notice the "I think" in my post. I have never tried this and I only said that from what I have read on a bunch of forum threads. if it is a myth then I stand corrected.

If you would like I can search for the threads that I was reading. Also it makes sense since you lose the turbo boost between gear changes. But whatever.
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O and clutch masters makes a much better clutch than competition clutches.
What makes them better? just trying to look at my options

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Leave it all stock, run ngk bkr7e plugs though, they run a tad bit colder. Stock honda ignition has been proven to hold well over 700whp

Also, if your going to be running a hondata system, why are you wanting an FMU?
I thought that the only time one wasn't needed was when you run a standalone ecu, and the hondata is a piggyback stlye isnt it? Please dont bash me on this i know my facts might be far from correct but thats why i ask the question, so knowledgable people can correct me! lol

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Notice the "I think" in my post. I have never tried this and I only said that from what I have read on a bunch of forum threads. if it is a myth then I stand corrected.

If you would like I can search for the threads that I was reading. Also it makes sense since you lose the turbo boost between gear changes. But whatever.
Well why do you think that? i know the b16 tranny has very short gears, but wouldnt that be a bit better than longer gears since you'll always be in a high rpm therefore keeping you in the boost range, Right? like i said please dont bash me on my thoughts lol new to the imports so just trying to learn
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What makes them better? just trying to look at my options


I thought that the only time one wasn't needed was when you run a standalone ecu, and the hondata is a piggyback stlye isnt it? Please dont bash me on this i know my facts might be far from correct but thats why i ask the question, so knowledgable people can correct me! lol


Well why do you think that? i know the b16 tranny has very short gears, but wouldnt that be a bit better than longer gears since you'll always be in a high rpm therefore keeping you in the boost range, Right? like i said please dont bash me on my thoughts lol new to the imports so just trying to learn
clutch: I have had nothing but bad luck with competition clutches, ive tried several of them before and have always had them fall apart or break somehow. Maybe i just got the only 3 bad ones they have ever made, but ive only had to have 1 clutchmasters clutch in my current car.

Ecu/Fmu: Usually people use the fmu when they are using a stock ecu. Hondata does not require you to use one. Most programs that i know of dont. S300 is a wonderful program, I highly recommend it if you can afford the 595$ price tag. S100 is a good basic setup but S200 is total garbage, there is a reason hondata trashed the s200 line all-together

And you have the right basic thinking on the transmission/gearing
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damn 11 second cars to a ls integra lol sux
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Well why do you think that? i know the b16 tranny has very short gears, but wouldnt that be a bit better than longer gears since you'll always be in a high rpm therefore keeping you in the boost range, Right? like i said please dont bash me on my thoughts lol new to the imports so just trying to learn
Haha it seems that I was incorrect on that point. oh well learning is good.
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clutch: I have had nothing but bad luck with competition clutches, ive tried several of them before and have always had them fall apart or break somehow. Maybe i just got the only 3 bad ones they have ever made, but ive only had to have 1 clutchmasters clutch in my current car.

Ecu/Fmu: Usually people use the fmu when they are using a stock ecu. Hondata does not require you to use one. Most programs that i know of dont. S300 is a wonderful program, I highly recommend it if you can afford the 595$ price tag. S100 is a good basic setup but S200 is total garbage, there is a reason hondata trashed the s200 line all-together

And you have the right basic thinking on the transmission/gearing
Thanks for the info man ill look into a different clutch. Good to know about the fmu now i can use that money on something else maybe even save it for the dyno thanks man

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damn 11 second cars to a ls integra lol sux
Lol... My camaro was stolen while we were away on a trip, only reason they found it was because they fliped it on the street in the town next to where i live. theres a video of them that one of the street lights captured where they were doing 100mph i think two hours later they crashed it, atleast according to the timeframe anyway. And the mustang, well i just wanted another V8 lol, but i like to learn, so thats why i picked up a 4cyl to try something different. NOBODY says that a 1.8L cant run 11sec dude
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