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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 05:54 AM
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I was sitting at a light when i felt something in my clutch pedal and the motor started idling low like it was under load. I couldnt take it out of gear and the clutch pedal does nothing now. It still is stiff like usual and the slave cylinder moves, but the clutch doesnt engage/disengage. I can change gears if I turn the car off. What could have happened?

Im not sure wtf it is, beacuse the clutch isnt fully engaged, and i cant engage/disengage it any more regardless of pushing the pedal.

Edit: took apart the car and it was the clutch springs.
Replaced the clutch with a XTD Stage 2 and reused the Competition Clutch Pressure plate. Now the clutch is rubbing/grinding on something, what can cause this?
And how many ft/lb does the Pressure plate need to be TQ'd to?
And what can cause no speed sensor to work. Because so far no speed sensor works in this new transmission.

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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 06:48 AM
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Check whether clutch fork broke.
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 07:56 AM
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Check whether clutch fork broke.
it didnt, at least not where i can see. And there is still tension on the clutch pedal.
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 08:04 AM
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how old is your clutch?
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 08:08 AM
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how old is your clutch?
not that old. Ive had it less than a year, and i bought it used from my friend who had it about 6 months. Its a stage 3 6 puck, and it had alot of life on it when i put it in about 8 k miles ago.

Is it possible for the throwout bearing to break and cause this problem? Because i replaced the throwout bearing a few months back because it started to grind, and I bought this Nachi throwout bearing online because I was short on $.
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 08:12 AM
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i have seen throwout bearings get put on crooked and make them break

have also seend the fork break around the throwout bearing

i hate to say it, but you are gonna have to pull that tranny to check everything out.

didnt you just build that thing and put it all together recently?
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 08:13 AM
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if you have an old clutch prolly one of the clutch springs snapped off and is not letting you engage or disengage the clutch or it can also be your pressure plate.but do the easy first and check clutch fork,clutch pressure,clutch cilinder,and clutch master cilinder.if all of them are good then start taking the tranny off.
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 08:18 AM
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i have seen throwout bearings get put on crooked and make them break

have also seend the fork break around the throwout bearing

i hate to say it, but you are gonna have to pull that tranny to check everything out.

didnt you just build that thing and put it all together recently?
i built it early last year. It was running fine until 2 months ago when i had to change the throwout bearing.

How far is the slave cylinder supposed to move? And if the clutch fork broke wouldnt there be no pressure in the pedal?
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 08:21 AM
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The clutch fork shouldn't have any play, unfortunately mine did...

same symptoms as you described.
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 08:23 AM
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The clutch fork shouldn't have any play, unfortunately mine did...

same symptoms as you described.
how do i test and see if it has play? try to move it on the slave cylinder?
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 08:26 AM
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i built it early last year. It was running fine until 2 months ago when i had to change the throwout bearing.

How far is the slave cylinder supposed to move? And if the clutch fork broke wouldnt there be no pressure in the pedal?
it could have broke at the bearing itself (like one of the tabs, causing the bearing to be misaligned/sitting at an angle.

it could be a clutch spring as well, could be the pressure plate.

it sucks but the only way to be sure is to take it apart
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 08:57 AM
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Check the clutch pedal adjustment. If you don't have the proper amount of free play, the clutch will be partially engaged.
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 09:41 AM
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sounds like a pressure plate issue to me. I would just drop the tranny
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 09:46 AM
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sounds like a pressure plate issue to me. I would just drop the tranny
yea im going to drop the tranny but what could have happened to the pressure plate? I mean the car still turns on i just cant disengage the clutch.
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 10:05 AM
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yea im going to drop the tranny but what could have happened to the pressure plate? I mean the car still turns on i just cant disengage the clutch.
ron made a valid point.

check and make sure the clutch is adjusted correctly
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
Check the clutch pedal adjustment. If you don't have the proper amount of free play, the clutch will be partially engaged.
yes i know, but could that just happen as im holding the pedal? I mean it felt like something snapped while i was holding the clutch, but it didnt really affect the weight of the pedal at all, and now the pedal doesnt disengage the clutch. :/
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 10:39 AM
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sounds like a pressure plate issue to me. I would just drop the tranny
thats what i was thinkin. like maybe the fingers broke off
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 10:51 AM
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duno ill see when i drop the tranny later today or tomorrow. It felt like something snapped when it happened.
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 01:41 PM
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Im willing to bet that it is your release bearing. If it snapped (One othe side clips) your pedal will still have pressure because of the hydraulic lines but it will not let the clutch engage or disengage. This would be the cheapest fix, (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JAPAN...Q5fAccessories)

Other than that, if it is a pressure plate problem, your ganna need a new kit! What type of clutch kit is it?
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 01:54 PM
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yes i know, but could that just happen as im holding the pedal? I mean it felt like something snapped while i was holding the clutch, but it didnt really affect the weight of the pedal at all, and now the pedal doesnt disengage the clutch. :/
It's sooooo much easier to check the clutch pedal free play than it is to drop the transmission. Just a thought.


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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 02:43 PM
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If it felt like something snapped i would put money on it being the clutch fork... or a long shot the springs in the clutch giving out for some reason and it locked it up. my buddy did his throwout bearing and it wasnt in all the way and locked up on him.
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 06:17 PM
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It's sooooo much easier to check the clutch pedal free play than it is to drop the transmission. Just a thought.


i checked that. its the same as it was before
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by hAtchAtack
This would be the cheapest fix, (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JAPAN...Q5fAccessories)
Actually he would be better off getting one at a local parts store that ordering from some random ebay company.

Here's the NAPA number for a b18c1 clutch release bearing:

Line: Altrom (ATM)
Part Number: 0702910

They run ~$25 with a 1 year warranty.
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by hAtchAtack
Im willing to bet that it is your release bearing. If it snapped (One othe side clips) your pedal will still have pressure because of the hydraulic lines but it will not let the clutch engage or disengage. This would be the cheapest fix, (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JAPAN...Q5fAccessories)

Other than that, if it is a pressure plate problem, your ganna need a new kit! What type of clutch kit is it?
thats the same one that i bought last time.
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 12:29 AM
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pulled out my transmission and this broke!

d series transmission
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