Does anyone use a non OEM type Gauge Cluster? Like Race Technology DASH 2, AIM, Stack, etc.

 

I know a lot of people run DASH and Stack.

In what part of SE asia do you have the misfortune of being depoyed?

Edit: SW Asia, sorry

 

Kandahar province.

 

Well, it could be worse. At least you are allowed on the Internet.

Our political leadership has got us in a world of **** over there. At least if you choose the military for a career you have the experience in the type of conflicts we will be involved in for the future. Thanks for your service.

 

With that tax free money your earning... you should be able to afford one of those easilly.
Where do you hail from stateside?
Stay safe! thanks for serving as well.

 

This is my second deployment, first was Iraq in 05-06, 16 months. The living conditions on our worst day were better than they are here. We aren't doing anything worth while. I hope they start the pull out in 11 or sooner. But yeah, getting on the interweb is nice. I've been in just over six years. Still have two to go, then I'm out. Going to use the New GI Bill for College. If anyone picks Military as a career, they should go Officer, it pays best. Thanks.

Ya, I'm just looking for idea's to narrow down for now. Still piecing the car together. I'm orginally from SoCal. Thanks.

 

[/QUOTE} Ya, I'm just looking for idea's to narrow down for now. Still piecing the car together. I'm orginally from SoCal. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

From one vet to another... I did 10 years and got out...
Half of that 10 was spent in combat environments. No fun when the deployments happen back to back. Tough on you and your family.
The military isnt worth spending 20 years in anymore for a paultry pension.
I figured I gave enough as it was.
Again stay safe and get back home to So Cal.
There are alot of good guys down there that can help you out.

 

im gunna run aim. does anyone know anybody who uses/used it? +/-

 

One of the upgrades I want for 2010 is a dash. For the price plus benefits a think the best deal is a racepak iq3.

 

depends on what you are looking to do with it.

Most of us use it for more then just a dash. And when that is the case you should really look into the software. Some of it is painful to use, some is good, and some is really good.

AIM XG LOG is a great deal and is what i use. The price is right, right around 1,000, the software is good, easy to use and user friendly, and a big plus is that i run a K series so my AIM can log everything the K-pro sees. AIM does the same with AEM, and many other ECU.

 

Warning lights...

I don't need 2 loggers, but having everything in 1 central location and downloaded with one cable plug in, and being able to use that data to compare it against things that AIM picks up is super valuable.

IMO the important stuff on a DL isn't the stuff that you can really see, its the software and support.

 

i have an aim mxl .. the shift lights and tach are easy to see and the software ain't bad.
i actually find it easier to read the numbers for water/oil temp/pressures or afr, etc on the dash than my old analog gauges where you might have to take a few glances if you're unsure where the needles are pointed .. and like slammed said, you start relying on the warning lights and don't have to look at the actual values as much as before.
i haven't gotten use to reading the lap times or predictive lap times yet .. but it's nice to have

best thing is to get a system other people around you have and you can share data with. there's quite a few of cars in ctcc with aim dashes so it's easy to figure out problems or ask for help .. and many of the crew guy have lots of experience running the same system in koni challenge, etc.

 

I have run the MoTeC adl for many years in my car. It can do anything i could ever need it to do. The only reason I went with MoTeC was because all the rest of the ecu and ignition is MoTeC. If I had anything else I would get a AIM unit.

 

i really like that race tech dash 2. Its def nice for the price for sure.

 

I used to have a racepak. It was ok but not something I would buy unless I needed it (in this case it was for a chevy V8 swapped 240sx).

 

Im running AIM Plus Auto. Its not quite as cut out as the XGLOG but for what I am using it for, its perfect. I am not at the level to study data acquisition just yet. Love it.

 

Yep, to OP, if you plan on buying things ONCE, go with an ADL. If I had the money, I would do exactly as said above. You cant beat the logging features of any motec product.

 

MoTeC is great, but IIRC, I could have bought two sets of DL1s and Dash2s just for the price of the MoTeC dash display alone. I'm sure it's likely one of the best products on the market, but for an amateur like me, the DL1 with a Dash2 is a great combo and does 99% of what I need. Great bang for the buck.

However, if you have the money to spend, MoTeC would be at the top of my list! As would EFI Technology data aq systems. However a Level II setup with a dash display runs over $14k!!!

The only real short coming of the DL1 is the sampling rate if you want to use suspension pots. Also, if you're going to datalog a large number of channels, you could run out on the DL1/Dash2 combo. I'm rewiring the car now to data log oil/water temp, oil pressure, steering angle input, TPS, RPM, brake pressures, and hopefully all 4 wheel speeds. I'd love to do shock pots, but I really would need a higher sampling rate. There is some talk about people making external boxes to data log shock data then feed the data to the DL1, but I haven't seen anything materialize yet.

 

I run 3 different system on 3 different car. On the TSX we run AIM MXL Pista with Hondata kpro via RS232. On the S2000 we run motec adl with m800. On the NSX we run an EFI Technology dash, ecu and ignitor. I also had a chance to play with racepak and Race Technology, albeit briefly.

For club racers or even pro racers with not a lot of resource, the AIM products are the simplest and easiest to use. They are powerful enough that the low end product has capabilities of logging 200 Hz thus capable of logging suspension pots. A lot of sensors are pre-calibrated and you just need to choose from drop down menu. For custom sensors their calibration procedures are pretty simple. It can communicate directly to a lot of aftermarket ecu and some modern factory ecu using CAN or RS232. The hardware is really good quality. Comparable o motec and EFI.

The motec is more powerful. But it is very expensive. You can buy the cheaper one but a lot of the features and capabilities are locked.

The EFI Technology is a pain in the *** to setup. There are no preset sensor calibrated. The calibration procedures are tedious. The software are not really friendly compared to motec and AIM. Extremely expensive. You have to pay for everytime they revise the software. Which is bollocks IMHO. We had to pay $1700 for the new version software a year ago. Still pissed about it.

The racepak is a pretty good value for the bundle. I think it is the cheapest of the bunch if you compare of it's logging capabilities. That being said their software sucks!!! Talking about non friendly software and weak.

The Race Technology is very comparable to AIM regarding software. The hardware is not as nice as AIM, motec or EFI Technology. The logging rates maxed out at 100 Hz which is not enough for suspension pots. I like their compact flash system, easiest to download.

For those reasons, I started selling AIM Products. If any of you need it, you can send me email or PM.

I have 2 of the cars I mentioned above in my garage currently. If you want to see the pictures of the AIM MXL and EFI Technology, I can take pictures and post it here.

 

Andrie, I would be curious to see the EFI Technologies dash if you wouldn't mind snapping a shot or two of it.

 

how did you get the aim dash to talk to the kpro through rs232? Are you using a usb converter cause i had thought about this for s300 somehow.

 

S300 does not provide the proper information stream for the MXL. It will work however with Kpro.

 

It's built into the Kpro via the RS232 protocol, you run a connector from the Kpro to the AIM and they're now integrated and you can see and log everything that the Kpro sees. Wish the S300 could do that, but it's not available.

 

WELL WTF GET WITH IT HONDATA!!

 

S300 do not have an output. This is the limitation of factory ecu. K series ecu has data stream output capabilities.

Sander, I'll upload it tomorrow and have the link available here.